Re: [s-b] Consultation 52

[Daniel Lepage <dplepage@xxxxxxxxx>]

I claim this INCONSISTENT. This ruling is based on the assumption that  
no Game Object can be an External Force. This is in flat contradiction  
with the rules: by Rule 1-3, every Outsider, and thus every Player, is  
an External Force by definition.

Were the game to end, the AFO would indeed cease to be a Faction, but  
the AFO itself would persist, and this is the only requirement for  
being an External Force.

On a related note, I call for Consultation 42 to be ZOTTed, on the  
grounds that too many other Consultations address the same issue and I  
do not wish to introduce inconsistencies.

For reference, C42 was BobTHJ's question: The AFO is both a Player and  
a Faction at the same time, true or false?

-- 
Wonko

On Nov 26, 2007, at 8:13 AM, 0x4461736864617368 wrote:

> I answer Consultation 52
>
> False, AFO cannot be both a player and a faction.
>
> Reasoning:
>
> Rule 1-3 defines an External Force as "anything which exists  
> independently of the game. That is, it would still exist if the game  
> stopped existing, and would still exist if the game had never  
> started existing.". Although the Agreement defining a Faction could  
> exist outside of the game, A Faction needs to be an Agreement  
> recognized by the game to be a Faction, and the very concept of  
> Faction is something that is recognized, or not, in the game. A  
> Faction needs to be an Agreement recognized by
> the game to be a Faction, and the very concept of Faction is something
> that is recognized, or not, in the game. As such, were, the game cease
> to exist, any Faction would cease to exist, as they are defined within
> the game. Here again, this disqualifies Factions for the status of
> External Force, and, as such, Factions can not be players.
>
> Since Factions cannot be players, and AFO is recognized as a player,  
> AFO
> cannot be a faction.
>
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