Jörg Rathlev on 9 Apr 2001 15:54:24 -0000


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spoon-business: FW: spoon-discuss: RFJ 45 judgement and updated Go board


Ahhrgh, someone should develop an official-stuff-recognizer to remind me of sending such things to the business list! Sorry.

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> Statement:
> Poulenc's placing of a stone on K5 on 30th March is invalid as he had
> already made a move on that day. The stone should be removed and Poulenc
> refunded his 4 points.
> The alliance that Benjamin offered to Jeff on 3rd April is 
> invalid as he had
> already made a move on that day. The alliance should be canceled. (The
> re-offer of the alliance earlier today still stands.)
> The alliance that The Kid offered to various people on 3rd April 
> is invalid
> as he had already made a move on that day. The alliance with 
> Chess should be
> canceled
> 
> Analysis:
> This is to bring the game into alignment with RFJ#44.

Judgement:

TRUE

Analysis:

Poulenc made a move by placing a stone on o4 at 30 Mar 2001 01:11:59 UTC and a second move by placing a stone on k3 (the message says k5, but the board shows the stone placed at k3, and since Poulenc never found something wrong about the actual placement, I think it should take precendence) on 30 Mar 05:37:39 UTC. Thus, he made two moves the same day, which is not allowed.

Benjamin has made two moves in the same message. It was not possible for him to make a second move, so he could not offer an alliance to Jeff Schroeder.

Concerning The Kid, he actually never made a valid offer for an alliance, since if he wants to offer an alliance, "e must name an enemy Go player to whom e is making the offer" (R368/0), which he did not do. But anyway, he already moved that day, so even if his offer were valid, he couldn't have made it.


Judicial Orders:

I order that Poulenc's stone is removed from k3 and that the Bank tranfers 4 points back to Poulenc.

I order that the alliance between The Kid and M'cachessilnath is cancelled.

Note: I do NOT make any orders concerning the alliance between Benjamin and Jeff Schroeder, since they became allied in a valid way in the meantime and the fact that they were not allied from April 3 to April 6 does not affect the game state in any way.


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Note (not part of my Judgement): The game state now *should* be the following, with Poulenc's stone removed and including an updated alliance list:

   a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s
 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
 2 . . . . J . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
 3 . . . . . . . J . . . . . . . . . . .
 4 . . . J . . . . . . . . . . C . . . .
 5 . J . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
 6 . . . . . . M . . . . . . . . C . . .
 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
 8 . . . . . . . . K . . . . . . C . . .
 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
10 . D . . . . . . . . K . . . B . . . .
11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . .
13 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
14 . . . . . . P . . . . . . . . . . . .
15 . . . . P . . . . . . . . . . S . . .
16 . . . . . . . . . . . . S . . . . . .
17 . . G . . . . . . . . . . . . S . . .
18 . . . . . G . . . . . . . . . . . . .
19 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Z


     Name                      Allies
----------------------------------------
  J  Joel                      none
  P  PurpleBob                 C
  C  Poulenc                   P,K
  S  Jeff Schroeder            B
  K  The Kid                   C
  G  Joerg                     none
  Z  Zagarna                   none
  B  Benjamin                  S
  D  Dave                      none
  M  M'cachessilnath           none



Joerg