Harrison, Andrew on 9 Apr 2001 15:54:16 -0000


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spoon-business: RE: spoon-discuss: RFJ 45 judgement and updated Go board


Firstly, you might want to send that judgement to the business list.
Secondly, I offer a Go alliance to Chess.

--
The Kid


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jörg Rathlev [mailto:joerg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 09 April 2001 16:58
> To: spoon-discuss@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: spoon-discuss: RFJ 45 judgement and updated Go board
> 
> 
> > Statement:
> > Poulenc's placing of a stone on K5 on 30th March is invalid 
> as he had
> > already made a move on that day. The stone should be 
> removed and Poulenc
> > refunded his 4 points.
> > The alliance that Benjamin offered to Jeff on 3rd April is 
> > invalid as he had
> > already made a move on that day. The alliance should be 
> canceled. (The
> > re-offer of the alliance earlier today still stands.)
> > The alliance that The Kid offered to various people on 3rd April 
> > is invalid
> > as he had already made a move on that day. The alliance with 
> > Chess should be
> > canceled
> > 
> > Analysis:
> > This is to bring the game into alignment with RFJ#44.
> 
> Judgement:
> 
> TRUE
> 
> Analysis:
> 
> Poulenc made a move by placing a stone on o4 at 30 Mar 2001 
> 01:11:59 UTC and a second move by placing a stone on k3 (the 
> message says k5, but the board shows the stone placed at k3, 
> and since Poulenc never found something wrong about the 
> actual placement, I think it should take precendence) on 30 
> Mar 05:37:39 UTC. Thus, he made two moves the same day, which 
> is not allowed.
> 
> Benjamin has made two moves in the same message. It was not 
> possible for him to make a second move, so he could not offer 
> an alliance to Jeff Schroeder.
> 
> Concerning The Kid, he actually never made a valid offer for 
> an alliance, since if he wants to offer an alliance, "e must 
> name an enemy Go player to whom e is making the offer" 
> (R368/0), which he did not do. But anyway, he already moved 
> that day, so even if his offer were valid, he couldn't have made it.
> 
> 
> Judicial Orders:
> 
> I order that Poulenc's stone is removed from k3 and that the 
> Bank tranfers 4 points back to Poulenc.
> 
> I order that the alliance between The Kid and M'cachessilnath 
> is cancelled.
> 
> Note: I do NOT make any orders concerning the alliance 
> between Benjamin and Jeff Schroeder, since they became allied 
> in a valid way in the meantime and the fact that they were 
> not allied from April 3 to April 6 does not affect the game 
> state in any way.
> 
> 
> ---
> 
> Note (not part of my Judgement): The game state now *should* 
> be the following, with Poulenc's stone removed and including 
> an updated alliance list:
> 
>    a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s
>  1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>  2 . . . . J . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>  3 . . . . . . . J . . . . . . . . . . .
>  4 . . . J . . . . . . . . . . C . . . .
>  5 . J . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>  6 . . . . . . M . . . . . . . . C . . .
>  7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>  8 . . . . . . . . K . . . . . . C . . .
>  9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> 10 . D . . . . . . . . K . . . B . . . .
> 11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> 12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . .
> 13 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> 14 . . . . . . P . . . . . . . . . . . .
> 15 . . . . P . . . . . . . . . . S . . .
> 16 . . . . . . . . . . . . S . . . . . .
> 17 . . G . . . . . . . . . . . . S . . .
> 18 . . . . . G . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> 19 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Z
> 
> 
>      Name                      Allies
> ----------------------------------------
>   J  Joel                      none
>   P  PurpleBob                 C
>   C  Poulenc                   P,K
>   S  Jeff Schroeder            B
>   K  The Kid                   C
>   G  Joerg                     none
>   Z  Zagarna                   none
>   B  Benjamin                  S
>   D  Dave                      none
>   M  M'cachessilnath           none
> 
> 
> 
> Joerg
>