Re: [eia] naval retreats and access

["J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

If you mean that the loser could only choose ally A's port, and couldn't
even go to his own nearest controlled port, I do not agree.  The rule
clearly states that the loser can retreat to the nearest allied-controlled
port, with access and _if_ the loser chooses.  You can always choose to
retreat to the nearest port controlled by you.

But if, on the other hand, you mean that if you choose to retreat to an
allied port, you must retreat to the closest of all allied-controlled ports,
then I agree.  In my opinion, you shouldn't get to pick whether to retreat
to ally A's nearest port, or ally B's nearest port (if one is closer than
the other).  You have to go to the one that's closest.

So to sum up my view, you can either choose to retreat to your own nearest
controlled port or, if allied ports with access are closer or equally close,
you can choose to retreat to the closest of all allied-controlled ports with
access.  Does that make sense, and do others agree ?

-JJY
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Helle" <jhelle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [eia] naval retreats and access


> JJ, it seems obvious to me that in this case the only port available would
> be Ally A.  In the wording of the rule you refer to it says "*the one
> nearest* friendly, unblockaded port .  Unless two ports are *equally
close*,
> I don't see where there is an option.
> JRH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 1:59 PM
> Subject: [eia] naval retreats and access
>
>
> > While we're on the subject of naval access and ports, here's a question
> I'd like us to resolve;
> >
> > Suppose a major power is allied to A and B, and has been granted access
to
> both allies' ports.  The major power loses a naval battle and has to
> retreat.  Rule 6.3.5.1 says, "the naval combat loser retreats all fleets
> that were in the combat to the one nearest unblockaded friendly (including
> an ally's port, with access permission and if the loser wishes to use it)
> port within 7 movement points (losing player's choice if more than one
> possible port is equally close)."
> >
> > Let's say that ally B's nearest port is closer than the nearest port of
> the retreating major power, and that ally A's nearest port is closer
still.
> Obviously, the loser has the choice of either his own nearest port, or the
> nearest port of an ally which is closer or equally close.  But my question
> is this; can the loser choose which ally's nearest port to retreat to, or
> must he retreat to the nearest of _all_ allied ports ?
> >
> > In other words, are the retreating major power's choices;
> > 1.)  The nearest of his own controlled ports
> > 2.)  The nearest port of ally A
> > 3.)  The nearest port of ally B
> >
> > Or are the choices restricted to;
> > 1.)  The nearest of his own controlled ports
> > 2.)  The nearest port of any ally (ally A in this example)
> >
> > So do you get to pick and choose which ally's nearest port to retreat
to,
> or are you restricted to the nearest of all allied ports ?  Personally, I
> lean toward the more restricted interpretation, since you can always
ignore
> allied ports and retreat to your own closest controlled port.  But I don't
> have any substantial rules reference to back this up, and I will go with
the
> majority view.
> >
> > -JJY
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