Re: [eia] naval retreats and access

["James Helle" <jhelle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Reading this again, it doesn't seem so obvious. I think the loser should
choose to use an ally's port or his own (only those two choices at this
stage), and if he chooses to use an allied port over his own then it must be
THE nearest one.  I don't think in a retreat you should get to move any
further than absolutely neccesary to remove yourself from the enemy.  This
was what caught me by surprise in January, when the German corps moved twice
the distance of a normal move during their retreats!
JRH
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Helle" <jhelle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [eia] naval retreats and access


> JJ, it seems obvious to me that in this case the only port available would
> be Ally A.  In the wording of the rule you refer to it says "*the one
> nearest* friendly, unblockaded port .  Unless two ports are *equally
close*,
> I don't see where there is an option.
> JRH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 1:59 PM
> Subject: [eia] naval retreats and access
>
>
> > While we're on the subject of naval access and ports, here's a question
> I'd like us to resolve;
> >
> > Suppose a major power is allied to A and B, and has been granted access
to
> both allies' ports.  The major power loses a naval battle and has to
> retreat.  Rule 6.3.5.1 says, "the naval combat loser retreats all fleets
> that were in the combat to the one nearest unblockaded friendly (including
> an ally's port, with access permission and if the loser wishes to use it)
> port within 7 movement points (losing player's choice if more than one
> possible port is equally close)."
> >
> > Let's say that ally B's nearest port is closer than the nearest port of
> the retreating major power, and that ally A's nearest port is closer
still.
> Obviously, the loser has the choice of either his own nearest port, or the
> nearest port of an ally which is closer or equally close.  But my question
> is this; can the loser choose which ally's nearest port to retreat to, or
> must he retreat to the nearest of _all_ allied ports ?
> >
> > In other words, are the retreating major power's choices;
> > 1.)  The nearest of his own controlled ports
> > 2.)  The nearest port of ally A
> > 3.)  The nearest port of ally B
> >
> > Or are the choices restricted to;
> > 1.)  The nearest of his own controlled ports
> > 2.)  The nearest port of any ally (ally A in this example)
> >
> > So do you get to pick and choose which ally's nearest port to retreat
to,
> or are you restricted to the nearest of all allied ports ?  Personally, I
> lean toward the more restricted interpretation, since you can always
ignore
> allied ports and retreat to your own closest controlled port.  But I don't
> have any substantial rules reference to back this up, and I will go with
the
> majority view.
> >
> > -JJY
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