Joel Uckelman on Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:41:26 -0500 (CDT)

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Re: [eia] Nelson/Napoleon

Thus spake "Nate Ellefson":
> > Thus spake "Nate Ellefson":
> > > How to put this: I think the rule that Joel cited is the 
> > controlling 
> > > one, so I'd have to vote that Turkey does get 2PP.  That 
> > being said, I 
> > > don't think it *should* be that way...
> > 
> > Why do you think it shouldn't be that way?
> Bottom line, the sentence "Wow, that really speaks well of the Portugese
> that the British have an admiral such as Nelson." seems unlikely to me.
> I think a more likely statement is "Wow, the Portugese sure are lucky to
> have fought under an admiral such as Nelson; they wouldn't have stood a
> chance otherwise."  Political points are fundamentally representative of
> national prestiege, and I can't think of cases where a nation ever
> derives prestiege in the person of a commander from another country,
> even if they served under that commander.

I had always taken PP to be an aggregate of factors external and internal; 
I don't see them as solely outward-facing.


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