| Michael Gorman on Sat, 20 Mar 2004 00:38:52 -0600 (CST) |
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| Re: [eia] 2 rules questions |
At 11:38 PM 3/19/2004 -0500, J.J. Young wrote:
I believe the only time you don't declare a siege combat right away is when you fight a field battle first. Otherwise it is declared at the time the forces retire into the city and thus happens before field combats are resolved. That's in 7.5.1.1.2: If they all do so retire (referring to defending forces in the area), the attackers may, if desired, be placed on top of the forces and a siege occurs.> Question #2: Suppose a player sends a set of land orders in which two armies are sent to adjacent spaces. In one space, a field battle takes place. In the adjacent space, a siege is anticipated. As we know, the field battle is conducted first. Is it possible for the player to use the army in the adjacent area to reinforce? > It seems clear to me that the answer to this one should be 'yes'. The only thing that makes me hesitate is the wording in section 7.5.2.11.1.2 which reads: "Forces may not attempt to reinforce if they have already or will take part in another combat this same major power sequence." Someone might argue that since sieges *could* involve combat (siege assault combat), an army that is besieging is ineligible to reinforce a field combat in an adjacent space. > This logic seems incorrect to me, since the decision to besiege or not to besiege takes place *after* all field combats are completed. (Just because a player chooses not to use unused movement points for foraging does not *force* that player to actually lay siege. It merely gives him the *option* of doing so.) So I think 7.5.2.11.1.2 would be clearer if it were understood to be referring to *field* combats and not (potential) siege combats. I doubt there will be any dispute on this point, but I just wanted to make sure before it actually mattered. I don't have the time or energy to start a major rules debate this week, but I don't agree. According to 7.5.1 or thereabouts, the act or decision of besieging a city takes place at the same time as field combats, not after. I feel that the way we have structured our land orders via email was to say when each corps moves if we would have that corps lay siege (or we assume that it will) if the enemy we attack withdraws into a city. At least, we have no history of sending separate emails announcing our decision whether or not to lay siege after the defender's decision whether or not to withdraw.
So, I would say that if you have declared a siege, you would not be eligible to reinforce in the same turn as you are going to take place in another combat that major power phase. Similarly, if you did not declare a siege, those forces would be available.
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