Re: [eia] Sea Supply

["J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

What Joel has said here is exactly what I was thinking, and my reasoning for
giving Danny the advice that I did.  Any dissenters ?

-JJY

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joel Uckelman" <uckelman@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [eia] Sea Supply


> Thus spake Danny Mount:
> > Hi everyone.  Recently I've been trying to interpret the sea supply
> > rules in 7.4.3.1, particularly as they apply to reinforcing a minor
country
> > corps.  7.4.3.1 says, "In order to trace supply across sea areas there
must
> > be on of a major power's depots in each of the two friendly controlled
ports
> > or port areas between which supply is to be traced.  At least one of
these
> > ports must contain a fleet(s) of the major power and/or an ally and that
> > port must be a supply source or be able to trace a valid supply chain
via
> > depots to a supply source."  This is the rule that we recently
discovered
> > that we had been applying incorrectly.  What we discovered was that a
fleet
> > must be in the port which is the supply source, not just any port.
> >
> >     Keeping this rule in mind, I am wondering what has to happen in
order to
> > receive Swedish reinforcements directly in my Swedish corps (which are
> > currently in Naples).  The relevant rule for this is 5.2.2.2.3.3 which
> > states, "Minor free states may receive their factors in the same way
[i.e.,
> > by being on or next to a depot in a valid supply chain], but *must trace
a
> > supply line (of their controlling major power) back to a supply source
in
> > their minor country*."  This last line has me wondering whether the
depot in
> > Sweden would have to have a fleet with it in order for my Swedish corps
to
> > receive reinforcements.
> >
> >     I have asked JJ about this, and he thinks that the Swedish port does
> > *not* need to have a fleet in it to satisfy these rules.  He believes
that
> > the supply source for the purpose of sea supply could be in Spain while
the
> > supply source in Sweden is just another depot in the chain.  I am happy
with
> > that interpretation, but I just want to make sure that everyone else
sees
> > the rules the same way.  Basically, I just want to make sure that no one
is
> > going to tell me later on that I can't do what I thought I could do.  So
if
> > anyone sees these rules differently (and believes that I *would* need a
> > fleet in a Swedish port in order to receive reinforcements), please
speak
> > now or forever hold your peace.
> >
> > Danny
>
> If you have depots in Stockholm and Naples, and a fleet in either place
> then I think you've met the requirements set out by 5.2.2.2.3.1,
> 5.2.2.2.2.3.2, and 7.4.3.1. Here's why: 7.4.3.1 requires the fleet used
> for sea supply to be in a port that can draw supply itself. When using sea
> supply for the purpose of supplying corps, it will generally be the case
> that supply is flowing in one direction only---toward the corps being
> supplied---and the fleet has to be in the source port rather than the
> destination. In your situation, however, both ports are already supply
> sources for you, so it makes no difference which of the two ports your
> fleet is in.
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