Re: [eia] I still have a problem

["Everett E. Proctor" <spiritmast@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

So how have you guys resolved this problem in your face to face games?
If you tell me that you ended up writing down whether or not you were
going to have simultaneous movement and then revealing it simultaneously, then I'll concede.  Otherwise, I'll prefer to use whatever method you
used to resolve this *problem*.

I think the problems caused by the blind declaration outweigh the problem
Mike mentioned.

-Everett


On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 08:59:12 -0500
"Kyle H" <menexenus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>     I think Mike has made an excellent point.  And the point he is making is
> a very general one that will apply to any given situation.  So I'm not sure
> that Everett's kind gesture (always allowing Russia and France to decide
> about combined movement after the British Coalition) solves the problem.
> After all, it's possible that someday the current system of alliances will
> break down.  What if we have 3 factions one day?  Then how will we decide?
>     I think Mike's point is an incredibly powerful reason to insist on doing
> Combined Movement via the escrow.  I know I said before that I didn't care
> and was willing to concede to Everett's position.  But Mike's reasoning has
> convinced me otherwise.  I now believe that using the escrow for Combined
> Movement really is necessary.
> 
> kdh
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Everett E. Proctor" <spiritmast@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 7:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [eia] I still have a problem
> 
> 
> > Seriously?  Your decision to combine movement changes whether or not
> > Austria and Prussia have combined movement?  That's fine.  I'm willing to
> give you last dibs on that call, as long as you are willing to give us a "us
> too" e-mail.
> >
> > -Everett
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 29 Mar 2003 23:54:14 -0600
> > Michael Gorman <mpgorman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I'm not entirely comfortable with the us too email, nor am I happy with
> > > requiring Austria to combine with everyone Prussia combines with in
> order
> > > to combine with Prussia.  That Prussia didn't offer to combine with
> Austria
> > > and has stated he meant to do that makes the current turn less important
> to
> > > me but I very much wanted Prussia and Austria to make their decision
> > > without knowing if I was combined with France.  If they can alter their
> > > combined movement phase after knowing mine, then I would want to be able
> to
> > > alter mine after they alter theirs which in turn should allow them to
> alter
> > > theirs after I alter mine in response to them altering theirs and so
> > > on.  We can get into an endless recursion of combined movement phases if
> > > the results of knowing what someone else is doing will alter what you
> do.
> > >
> > > In this turn, if Austria and Prussia are not combined, I want to combine
> > > with France.  If they are combined, I have to really think about it.  I
> > > took a shot at hoping Austria wouldn't risk going into instability and
> > > getting potentially screwed in an economic phase and would wait a turn
> to
> > > declare war.  They didn't wait, but their lack of combined movement is
> very
> > > important to me.  If they can alter that after declaration, then I want
> to
> > > be able to respond to that alteration and cannot really say they can't
> > > respond in kind.  So, depending on what their plans are, combined
> movement
> > > phase will continue forever if we allow changes after revealing
> declaration.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
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