Re: [eia] rule change proposal - new corps

["James Helle" <jhelle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I think it's a good idea, also.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny Mount" <mount.23@xxxxxxx>
To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 1:57 PM
Subject: RE: [eia] rule change proposal - new corps


> Kyle,
> As you have so eloquently spoken up to this rule, I too have had thoughts
> about this.  Since I am the last to join and learn about this game I have
> had thoughts about how one could make a mistake in over or under
calculating
> this number.  I think it is a great idea and I am in favor of supporting
it
> if the rest of the members are as well.
> -DEM
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: eia-admin@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:eia-admin@xxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Kyle
> H
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 3:26 PM
> To: eia@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [eia] rule change proposal - new corps
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>     Ever since I wrote the email below, I've been considering whether we
> should stick with the current rule that says that if you didn't have the
> foresight to pay for an extra corps counter in the previous economic
phase,
> then you are screwed if you don't have an eligible corps in which to place
> newly produced units.
>     Here's my concern:  I hope I'm not offending anyone by saying this,
but
> I think it would take a person of extraordinary honesty to actually own up
> to making this kind of costly book-keeping error.  I like to think of
myself
> as an honest person, but if I were ever to end up in the position where I
> would lose a cavalry factor because of my failure to put another $1 into
my
> corps maintenance in the last economic phase, I can imagine that I would
be
> sorely tempted to fudge the numbers a little.
>     Let me put the point a slightly different, more general way:  I think
it
> is a bad idea to have a rule that severely penalizes a player for what is
> essentially a minor book-keeping mistake, *especially* when there is no
> mechanism for oversight or verification.
>     So here's what I propose:  a pay-as-you-go system for corps creation.
> During an ecomonic phase, a player would only pay maintenance for the
corps
> that are currently on the board.  However, whenever a player places a new
> corps on the board (which would always be during a reinforcement phase) he
> would immediately have to pay $1.  This proposal essentially makes paying
> for corps exactly like paying for depots - you pay to place them, and you
> pay if they are still on the board during an economic phase.
>     The merits of this proposal are that the player would still pay the
same
> amount that he would otherwise pay for new and old corps markers, but
> without the possibility of finding himself in a situation where he is
forced
> to choose between painful honesty and a minor accounting fudge.  Again,
> please understand that I am not accusing anyone in this group of having a
> disposition to play dishonestly.  Quite the contrary, I am quite confident
> that we are all a group of honorable, honest men.  Still, why should we
> allow a rule that would tempt even the most honest among us into
dishonesty,
> especially when that rule is highly bureaucratic in nature?
>
> I'm interested to know what you all think.
>
> kdh
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kyle H" <menexenus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 9:44 AM
> Subject: Reinforcement phase rules reminder
>
>
> >     As you are considering your reinforcement orders, keep in mind that
> > August is the first CAVALRY REINFORCEMENT month.  The cavalry that you
> > purchased in March MUST be placed in an eligible corps this month.  A
> corps
> > is eligible if it is either a) inside the home nation or b) within one
> space
> > of a depot that is part of a valid supply chain starting inside the home
> > nation.  (If you purchased a cavalry factor for a minor country, in
order
> to
> > be eligible the corps would need to be either in the minor country or
> within
> > one space of a depot that is part of a valid supply chain starting in
the
> > minor country.  Don't forget that the contents of minor country corps
are
> > public knowledge in our game.  When factors of any kind are added to a
> minor
> > country corps, don't forget to update us.)
> >     Notice that Prussia currently has no eligible corps.  QUESTION:
> Suppose
> > Prussia purchased a cavalry factor in March.  What would happen to it
now
> > that there is no place to put it?  ANSWER:  There are two possibilities.
> If
> > Prussia was thinking ahead and paid for an extra corps marker in June,
> then
> > Prussia could place the new corps marker in a city inside the home
nation
> > and then immediately place his new cavalry factor inside that new corps.
> > However, if Prussia did not pay for an extra corps marker in June, then
it
> > would be screwed.  Jim's only option at that point would be to convert
the
> > cavalry factor (permanently) into an infantry factor and place it with a
> > city garrison inside the Prussian home nation.  (That would be a waste
of
> > $12 for each converted cavalry factor.  That hurts no matter who you
are!)
> >
> > Hope this rules reminder helps keep everyone on the same page!
> >
> > kdh
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kyle H" <menexenus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 4:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [eia] Political Orders
> >
> >
> > >     As far as I know, the game is not in any official timeout.  At
> present
> > > we are waiting for Everett to reply to the escrow and submit his
August
> > > political phase orders.  Once he has done that, we will begin the
> > > reinforcement phase.  While we wait, I hope everyone is looking ahead
to
> > > their reinforcement and naval orders so that we can resolve those
phases
> > as
> > > quickly as possible.
> > >
> > > kdh
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Danny Mount" <mount.23@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 4:19 PM
> > > Subject: [eia] Political Orders
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hey guys!
> > > >
> > > > Have the Political Orders been sent out of the system yet?  I have
yet
> > to
> > > > receive them if they have.  Is the game in a "timeout" or something?
> > > >
> > > > -DEM
> > > >
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