J.J. Young on 1 Aug 2002 03:56:05 -0000

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Re: [eia] Economic phase

I agree that trade with GB (AKA "domestic trade") should be public.  After
all, Napoleon certainly knew when other countries traded with Britain, which
was the start of a couple of wars.  To save everyone time looking at the map
for themselves and to check on what others are getting, I have already
compiled a complete trade list for this economic turn and will send it with
all the rest of my economic stuff.  If you are eligible to trade with GB but
choose not to, please let me know and I will note this in my economic phase

Feel free to check my numbers and let me know of any mistakes I've made.


P.S:  I will have to see the income of the Battle of Jerusalem before
sending out my economic phase, though, as its outcome affects Turkey's and
my victory points.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle H" <menexenus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [eia] Economic phase

>     Yes, everything having to do with how money and manpower are spent
> remains private with one important exception:  ship-building is public
> knowledge.  So if you bought a ship factor (each ship takes 12 months to
> constructed), you must inform everybody how many are being built and in
> which ports.  Victory points, of course, are public.  Economic
> is public (by House Rule if not by regular rules).  Ceding is public.  The
> results of the Levy Step which might be visible on the map are public.
> Political Combinations are public.  ...  So receipts, expenditures, and
> composition of any corps that may be placed are all private knowledge.
> Pretty much everything else is public.  (Am I missing anything?)
>     Here's something that I was thinking about recently, though.  Take a
> look at Peace Condition B.6.  It says that if the loser trades with GB,
> the victor may declare war again prior to the end of the enforced peace.
> order for this Peace Condition to have any meaning at all, it must be
> knowledge whether each country has traded with GB.
>     Everett pointed out to us before that, according to the rules,
> *everything* should be public knowledge:  corps strengths, fleet
> and expenditures.  We have decided to impose a fog of war on most of these
> items.  I agree that the fog of war makes the game more interesting.
> However, the decision to trade or not to trade with GB has to be public
> knowledge for the reason given above.  Do you all agree?
> kdh
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jhelle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:35 AM
> Subject: [eia] Economic phase
> >     I think we have decided loans {and hopefully reinforcments
> > purchased} are private business.  What info are we making public
> > in the economic phase?
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