|Daniel Lepage on Thu, 4 Nov 2004 09:29:37 -0600 (CST)|
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On Nov 4, 2004, at 9.59 AM, Jeremy Cook wrote:
The question for the appellate judges to decide is: Could Wonko distinguish his actions from legal actions? In order for them to belegal, he had to be unable to do this before applying r699. I am arguingthat he was perfectly able to; the judges will decide this how they want.
The reason I bring up belief is because I think it's fairly obvious that if I believe my actions to be legal, then I quite definitely cannot distinguish them from legal actions. Because if I could, I wouldn't think they were legal. What you're claiming, then, is that I didn't think my actions were legal. Which is false, but I can't prove that, nor can you.
See, I think it's reasonable to claim that The Voice couldn't distinguish my actions from legal actions. And I think it's reasonable to claim that because of that, my actions were legal.
I'm not bothering to argue that point because this point is much stronger anyway; but I do think my actions were legal anyway.
And obviously if I think they're legal then I can't tell the difference between them and legal actions.
Even if wonko is randomly generated text, e is still following the rules by (randomly) posting comprehendable english content. The rules currently DONOT FORBID a random text-generator from being a player, as long as itapplies for membership correctly, etc. And I don't think you or anyone else would argue that such a computer program can distinguish a legal rule froman illegal one.Well, to be consistent, I'd have to. Wonko is a Black Box. Maybe e's a random text generator, or a giant squirrel, or something even cooler. Based on eir responses to all our input, I would argue that whatever e is, e can do exactly that.
Prove it.And bear in mind that 'highly unlikely' and 'impossible' are by no means the same thing.
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