Daniel Lepage on Wed, 3 Nov 2004 21:21:39 -0600 (CST)

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Re: [s-d] Re: [s-b] CFI: All is Not Made Right.

On Nov 3, 2004, at 7.31 PM, Jeremy Cook wrote:

On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 07:01:24PM -0500, Daniel Lepage wrote:

On Nov 3, 2004, at 6.50 PM, Jeremy Cook wrote:

Additional comment by Plaintiff:

In the BabelFish example, there is genuinely no way of telling whether the translation claim is true. In this example, prior to the second use
of r699, there is no possible justification for these actions. If
Wonko's claim that he couldn't tell whether those actions were legal is
true, at that moment he could not possibly have understood the Game;
his post indicated that he was perfectly coherent, and so there's no
possibility that the claim could be true.

What you're claiming is that you can read my mind, in effect.

You have no way of knowing whether I thought my actions were legal, and
I see no grounds for the claim that if I couldn't tell, then I must be
stupid. In fact I did believe my actions to be legal, as a result of my
argument involving The Voice.

Even if you disagree with me that The Voice effectively can't
distinguish actions from anything, I definitely did believe at the time
that the argument was valid and my actions were legal.

Besides which, you have no idea what else I might've been thinking
there. Perhaps there's some other hole that I think would legalize my
actions, and I'm just choosing not to mention it yet. Perhaps I had
taken some strange drug or been hit on the head in such a way that I
was convinced anything I did would be legal.

You're missing the point. I'm not arguing what your beliefs at the time
were. I have no way of knowing that. I do know that you are capable of
realizing, before the second use of r699, that those actions were not
legal, regardless of whether you did in fact realize it.

Well, obviously I'm not capable of that, since I'm still not convinced that they weren't legal even without this scam. Anyway, it doesn't matter whether I can figure it out now; the important thing is whether I could figure it out then, and it seems I couldn't.

And even if I had, you'd have no way of knowing.

Hell, for all you know, I'm not really a person, but actually fifty
people sharing a single email account, and one of my fifty people is
kind of dumb from time to time.

by the way, you're tough to fight in a CFI.

Thank you. You're a formidable opponent yourself.


There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.
      -Steven Wright

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