Craig Daniel on Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:15:55 -0700 (MST)


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Re: [s-d] [s-b] rp


On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Elliott Hird
<penguinofthegods@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I might be a player, I might not be, but there's definitely a degree
> of disagreement; no consultations on the matter have become Pondered
> and there has been significant arguments on and off forums so I
> am almost certainly a PEP due to the "unclear, uncertain, or ambiguous"
> clause of rule 5E0.

You aren't a player, but I'll acknowledge that you're a PEP.

> Accordingly, I submit the following Refresh Proposal: {{
>
> /*
> Fixes: forfeits, tweaks, contract traps, the OCB, mack on forfeit, my
> weird-ass playerhood.
>
> I don't patch the mack-destroying bug here because it doesn't exist and any
> way of fixing it would just be kludging up the language.

+0, but I agree, the "bug" doesn't exist.

> Fixing 5E0 is left as an exercise to the player, a better priority is
> getting into less emergencies.

+0. Better no fix than a bad one.

> The correct game state of B Nomic is the gamestate in which the
> Player/ex-player known/formerly known as "ehird" is a PEP at the time of
> this Refresh Proposal's passing and has been a PEP since at least one second
> before the start of the emergency in which this RP was submitted. /*

+0; since you're a PEP, this does nothing.

> In rule 5E18, replace {
> No restrictions may be placed on when a player may forfeit; any player may
> forfeit the game at any time (regardless of any timekeeping device used in
> the game).
> } with {
> No restrictions can be placed on whether a player may forfeit; every player
> may
> always forfeit the game. This rule takes precedence over every other rule to
> the contrary.
> }

+50. This seems pretty optimal to me.

> Add to the end of the first paragraph of rule 5E35: {Every Player may submit
> Tweaks.}

+5, again for a simple and elegant solution to the problem.

> In rule 5E7, replace {No Player shall be made a Party to a Contract without
> their explicit consent, and no Contract may impose any obligation upon a
> non-Party.} with {No Player can be made a Party to a Contract without their
> explicit consent intended only for joining that Contract, and no Contract
> may impose any obligation upon a non-Party.}

There was no such bug (come on, *nobody* takes Suffocation seriously),
but this doesn't actually damage anything. +0.

> In rule 5E50, after {The Operantly Conditioned Beast (aka The Beast or The
> OCB) is an Outsider and a Player whose name is Fred.} add { This rule takes
> precedence over rule 5E4.}

Yeah, that solves his problem nicely. +5.

> All Objects that were mackerel at one point or are mackerel now that were or
> are owned by the Player or ex-player known or formerly known as "ehird" are
> hereby destroyed.

-10; this isn't something that needs an emergency to deal with as the
bug does not hurt gameplay in any fashion.

> Add a paragraph to the end of rule 5e29 reading: {Whenever an entity ceases
> to be a Legal Entity, all their mackerel are destroyed.}

+5. Again, not urgent but rather nice to have.

> If he is not already, the External Force with an email address of
> penguinofthegods@xxxxxxxxx or penguinofthegods@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx who was known
> as "ehird" when he was a Player and whose name is Elliott Hird and who
> submitted this RP hereby becomes a Player with the name of "ehird".
>
> All mackerel owned by the Player known as "ehird" are destroyed.
>
> 100 mackerel are created in the possession of the Player known as "ehird".
>
> /* just to be sure */

I'm sure. You're not a player, and this fact is not an emergency. -30.
Your total comes to 25 on the teucer scale.
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