Jamie Dallaire on Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:11:30 -0700 (MST)


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Re: [s-d] [s-b] Proposal: Slow down ministry reward lowering


Nice Proposal. I support it. 2 suggestions:

1 - perhaps that last modification should read "which must be less than its
current reward and less than any reward proposed for this ministry by
another usurper within the past 2 rdays". That's clunky, it can be better,
of course. But the point is that if me and j were to get into a bidding war
over Tyler's ministry, then he oculdn't lock me out of the contest or vice
versa by just going straight to m20 lower. and maybe m10 limit would then
slow down bidding wars too. "Proposed" reward has to be specified because
just the usurp itself does not change the Reward till 2 rdays later.

2 - while you're at modifying this rule, and while we're on the topic of
bidding wars: ehird's attempt made me spot another flaw in this rule.
Someone tried to usurp Tyler's ministry (j, I think?) with m75 reward.
Before 2 ndays were up (Tyler had taken no action up to that point) ehird
tried to usurp for m1 (he failed, though, lacking sufficient funds!). I
think he did so during teh same nday, even. Thing is, had ehird succeeded
and Tyler not put up a fight for his ministry the following would have
happened 2 ndays later: first usurper gains control of ministry, paying
Tyler m50 as compensation. Immediately after that, ehird gains control of
said ministry, paying 1/2 of m75 (which is? might wanna put in a round
mention too) to the first usurper as compensation. The first usurper got the
shaft! Lost macks and couldn't retract his usurp after ehird had usurped,
himself. So perhaps switch "If, 2 rdays after a Ministry is Usurped, that
Ministry's Reward is still higher than the Reward proposed by the Usurping
Legal Entity, the following events occur (in order from top to bottom, with
each change only if the previous change was successful): " to "If, 2 rdays
after a Ministry is Usurped, that Ministry's Reward is still higher than the
Reward proposed by the Usurping Legal Entity, *and this proposed Reward is
the lowest proposed for this Ministry by any Player within the past 2 rdays*,
the following events occur (in order from top to bottom, with each change
only if the previous change was successful): " Would automatically void
usurp attempts that got outbid.

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Jay Campbell <bnomic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

>
> I submit this Black Proposal:
>
> Change 4e48's second sentence "A Minister may, as a Game Action, Revise
> the Reward Value of its Ministry, immediately changing it to a value
> lower than the current Reward." to
>
> { A Minister may, as a Game Action, lower the Reward Value of its
> Ministry by as much as m20. This action may only be taken  once per nday
> per Ministry unless a different Legal Entity has proposed a lower
> Ministry reward than the current one.}
>
> Replace in the next sentence "which must be less than its current
> Reward" with
>
> { which must be up to m20 lower than its current Reward }
>
>
>
>
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