Re: [s-d] Emergency Management Procedure

[Antonio <antonio.dolcetta@xxxxxxxxx>]

> From: Peter Cooper Jr. <pete+bnomic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> antonio.dolcetta@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > Anyway, this lets any 4 players hijack the game declaring an emergency
> > state, immediately creating a new forum between them without inviting
> > anyone else, and bang, instant oligarchy. A fifth player cannot do
> > anything to stop this.
> >
> > You could say that technically every PEP should get invited to the new
> > forum, but once the public forum is moved to a new forum, there is no way
> > for a non-oligarch PEP to make his will known publicly, and in the
> > possibility of a real attempt for emergency (i mean a true emergency, not
> > an oligarchic coup d'etat), reaching an agreement with all PEPs is
> > actually not possible, since many PEPs may be inactive.
> 
> The Emergency Procedure applies to all PEPs, not just those who hit their
> Panic Buttons. All PEPs need to agree on an Emergency Coordinator and
> Forum to use.

what about PEPs that cannot be reached ? A mature game of nomic always has some retired or semi-retired members, can we truly expect them to pop up whenever our game gets nto an emergency ?


> 
> > I preferred the old method, that defacto required unanimity, without
> > requiring everyone to eplicitly vote.
> > Maybe if you added a way that a Panic Button can be used to veto an
> > emergency attmpt I would like it.
> 
> Well, I was trying to deal with the case where we didn't know who the
> current players were, either because of server failure or because we
> accidentially broke the game horribly with our changes. (The main reason I
> destroyed all players in my Tweak for this reset was because we didn't
> have a player list.)
> 

If you don't even know who the players are how do you know who the PEPs are at all And how do you know that you have the required number to say that you have reached an agreement ?


> > (If this is indeed a ploy Peter, know that I would have supported you, had
> > you privately sent me an invitation to the shadow cabinet. Don't tell that
> > to anyone though ;-)
> 
> It wasn't a ploy at all. I just figured we need something to deal with the
> Utter Chaos that is inevitable in the game of B Nomic, and threw this
> together. If you can come up with a better solution, please propose it.
> I've got no vested interest in this particular proposal, I just wanted us
> to put together something.
> 
> I don't intend to take over the game while I'm the Administrator, as
> that'd take all the fun out of it. :)
> 


I was just a joke of course, but I really think the the flaw I pointed out is real. I almost wanted to let this pass and try it myself, but I have already wrecked my share of [AB]nomics in the first couple of weeks.
Also in a real emergency situation I think this would not work either, as per previous comment.


   


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