Re: [s-d] A different RFJ system (draft)

[Daniel Lepage <dpl33@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Nov 27, 2006, at 6:42 PM, Peter Cooper Jr. wrote:

> "David E. Smith" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>> This is a draft proposal that puts justice and the RFJ system into
>> more of a "democratic" light. Since everyone participates in most
>> every other aspect of the game, why not include everyone in the RFJ
>> system too?
>>
>> Oh, and it has a cooler name. :)
>
> Cool names are a very important part of Nomic.

Well, it looks good, but I'm afraid without a funny name I can't  
really make a final decision here.
Said by Baron von Skippy on December 4, 2003.
Submitted by Sagitta as p1742 (Nweek 55).

http://www.nomic.net/~wonko/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/QuoteBook

>> Create the following rule:
>> {{
>> __Mob Justice__
>>
>> If at any time a player believes the state of this game to be in
>> question or error, that player may request Mob Justice.
>
> Well, the "state of the game" is *never* in question or error. We just
> as players might not be aware of what the state of the game actually
> is.

Not necessarily... unlike a computer program, the game actually can  
depend on subjective reasoning. For example, if a proposal passes  
that says "All players who aren't cool are evicted from the game",  
then the state of the game really is in question, because "cool" is  
subjective. We'd need to rule on what "cool" means.

More relevantly, we could make a rule that allowed us to ignore  
actions that have some subjective property, such as "stupid". One  
might then RFJ on whether a given action was, in fact, stupid.

> And if there's no remedy made, agreeing or disagreeing with it doesn't
> do anything. I think you need a statement with something to the effect
> that the Statement made in the Request For Mob is true or false for
> the purposes of figuring out the current state of the game. Or
> something like that.

Sometimes an RFJ is just to determine how a rule should be read. For  
example, one might RFJ that "Rule XXX only applies to case YYY".  
There isn't any remedy needed, it's just clarifying an ambiguity in  
the rules.

-- 
Wonko


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