[s-d] Win Attempt - My slant.

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> [Original Message]
> From: <eugman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <spoon-discuss@xxxxxxxxx>
 > Date: 8/1/05 7:02:41 PM
> Subject: [s-d] Win Attempt....DENIED
>
> > Rule 3-12 states that "Any player may Win at any time by declaring so
> > in a public forum, but only if a sentence in the Ruleset other than
> > this one explicitly permits it."
> > 
> > Rule 1-3's last paragraph states that "A text to the effect that "any
> > player may do X" should be interpreted to mean that X is a Game
> > Action."
> > 
> > Thus, Winning is a Game Action, as long as a sentence besides the one
> > in r3-12 permits it.

Here's where I lose the logic. In parsing, you've taken everything after
the word "may" in Rule 3-12 and converted it simply to "Winning",
disregarding the requisite stipulation, that of an explicit allowance to do
so by another rule.
The X in 1-3's last paragraph is everything after the word "may", not
simply "Winning".

> 
> Sound reasonable.
> 
> > Rule 1-3's first paragraph states that "Any Outsider may take any Game
> > Action at any time unless the rules say otherwise."

And here the rules do say otherwise. Rule 3-12 itself specifically
precludes itself as justification for declaring a win, and no other rule
explicitly allows it.
Thus the stipulation in the full description of X in the last paragraph of
1-3 puts the unless in place in the first paragraph of same.

> 
> Nice try but no cigar.  It doesn't mention winning  in there anywhere so
it isn't explicitly mentioning. I can go into a deeper rebuttal if you
like. 
> 
> 




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