Re: [s-d] Re: [s-b] [auto] EugeneMeidinger amends p33

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> 
> Sorry to be so mean; I suppose I have strong ideas about the style and 
> arrangement of the rules, and I hate seeing them broken. Some of the 
> older players can probably vouch for my tendency to rewrite large 
> chunks of the Ruleset whenever I get irritated trying to find 
> something.
No I'm quite happy when someone points out my vast spelling errors or lack of clearity just try to keep the jabs to a minimum please.


> 
> I also believe that it's much better to get long lists of complaints 
> about a prop than to have people vote it down inexplicably. Both have 
> happened to my props, and I definitely prefer the former.
> 
> > [[Also Rise to vote sir is a palindrome which also forms the word rots 
> > I'll be taking my genechips and amplitude please.]]
Ahh man i must not have been thinking straight when I wrote that....
> 
> I'm afraid I don't see where the word "rots" comes from. The only 
> Acronym I see is RTVS. Although if you changed "sir" to "sirs" you'd 
> get "rots" from a bizarre shifting acronym - first letter of the first 
> word, second of the second, third of the third, and fourth of the 
> fourth. That would be a cool thing to award points for.
Am I even allowed to do that?

> 
> > [[Also I'm considering intergrating gardens into this. Is this a bad 
> > idea? Should the past be left at that?]] 
> It'd be fun to have Gardens, but I'd advise against doing it all in one 
> proposal, if only because it gets hard to keep track of all the rules 
> when they change too much per nweek.

Point taken.

> I'm definitely in favor of referencing and reusing the past; the only 
> thing I don't like is bringing things back in exactly the same form 
> they once were in.
> 
> > Replace the information pertaining to gambly in rule 4-4 with the 
> > following:
> > {{
> > The Ministry of Gambling
> >
> > The Ministry of Gambling is a Ministry; its Minister may be called The 
> > Gaming
> > Commission or Gambly. E takes care of the list of legal casino
> > games. The Gaming Commission may not play in a Casino, own a Casino, 
> > or accept
> > bribes. }}
> 
> My earlier comment about Gambly governing "fairness" wasn't intended to 
> be a sarcastic criticism of the role; I'm honestly curious as to what 
> sort of games might require that sort of arbitration. In the past we've 
> usually stuck to fairly objective subgames, so that there would never 
> be a need for that sort of thing, but it could be interesting to have 
> fuzzier game definitions and questions of "fairness".

Well this was from  before ther was  a list of excepted games and I think before I knew about the dice rolling thing. I suppose though any game like a poker ripoff whihc requires secret information might invlove an abitrator.

> > [[Should I change the name of gambly to something else?]]
> 
> I think so, but that might just be me. I also think you shouldn't do it 
> in this prop, because then it'll be voted against both by those who 
> don't like the subgame and those who like the name Gambly. If you do it 
> in two separate props then they're both more likely to pass, which 
> means you get more points (which, in the true spirit of B Nomic, is the 
> important part ;-D ).
> 
> I don't know what a better name would be, though, nor am I sure exactly 
> what bothers me about "Gambly". I guess it sounds too... cute for my 
> liking.

I like it for it's cuteness and brevity. There is always The Gaming Comission you could use.

> > == Nomburg government==
> > Nomburg intitally has 8 small houses with a District of limbo.
> > Nomburg's main currency is the Genechip.
> > }}
> 
> Just to make sure I understand: Those houses are closed and for sale, 
> any player may buy them and place them on any open plot, and after 
> they're all placed we propose to add more?
>
Basically. Now reserved plots aren't open for placing. And before everyone buys them all up we can propose new building for the city to sell or more houses( Such as a casino for something like 100 genechips)

> > [[ This makes the Library you get to use as a prize for playing the 
> > tiles game]]
> >
> > Create a building called The Library according to the following:
> > The Library is fixed, tax-exempt, open and has a value of 50. The 
> > Library has a zoning of urban. If The Library is created and a,0 of 
> > Nomburg is not occupied by a building then a,0 is The Library's 
> > location and Nomburg is its District otherwise it has a location and 
> > district of limbo but is owned by Nomburg. The last person to have a 
> > zone they control to be zapped in the subgame of tiles owns The 
> > Library. If noone has had a zone zapped then The Library is owned by 
> > Nomburg and placed on the list of buildings not for sale.
> 
> Is there an advantage to owning the Library, or is it just for the 
> bragging rights?

As it is just bragging but I'd like to add an advantage. For one thing if a city requires owning a city pass or a building inside that city if say you want to buy something from it's store then this would basically be a ffree pass. Also I was thinking of giving the city some function but I'm not sure what it should be yet.



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