Re: [s-d] Cityscape: The subgame that probably won't make it past being a proposal.

[Daniel Lepage <dpl33@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Apr 27, 2005, at 6.59 PM, eugman@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> I still have to add alot to make it work and free from intial scamming 
> but I am planning to submit a proposal that makes a rulebook similar 
> to this and moves over the casino rules and cleans them up.
>
> It still needs alot of work. Really the only rule in it thats finished 
> is the name of the game and that will probably change as well.
> http://www.bnomic.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/EugeneMeidinger
>
> I really like the idea of interconnectivity between subgames that I 
> saw a bit of when reading about the gardens and the cube game thing. 
> Thats the idea of the  Library. Of course at some point owning the 
> library or a building in a city would have to have some value.

I quite like this. A few thoughts:
1) You don't need an Emergency section. Any Emergency can be dealt with 
just by making a proposal in the outer game (or a Tweak).
2) The definition of Buildings and their attributes could be more 
concise. You rarely need the word "attribute": "All buildings have the 
attribute of open or closed" is the same as "All buildings are either 
open or closed". Or, you could name the attributes: "Every building has 
the attributes Permanence, Location, District, Value, and Zoning. 
Permanence must be either transferable or nontransferable...". Shorter 
words would also help, as 'nontransferable' is quite a mouthful. Maybe 
Fluid vs. Fixed?
3) I'm not sure everything needs to be made of Rules. I like the way 
Cards were set up before the reset (and the way Talismans will be if 
that passes), where the general definition of a Card or a Talisman is 
defined in the rules, but individual Cards and Talismans are separate 
game documents. You could do the same thing by defining the general 
properties of Buildings and then having separate documents for specific 
types of buildings.
4) A few statements are trivially true, for example "Closed buildings 
have no effect that isn't defined in this rule unless stated otherwise 
by other rules". That seems to say that closed buildings have no 
effects except for those defined by this rule, and those defined by 
other rules. Since they have no effects outside of those specified by 
the rules anyway, the sentence doesn't actually do anything.
5) Being a bit of a grammar nazi, I feel obliged to point out first 
that "a lot" is always two words, never "alot", and "it's" is a 
contraction for "it is". The neuter third-person possessive is "its" 
with no apostrophe, as in "If a building is not in a city its district 
is limbo", not "If a building is not in a city it's district is limbo".
6) The Store definitions are a bit unclear. "When something is sold The 
buyer recieves the Game Object or Objects for sale and the owner of the 
store recieves The Game Objects and amount of attributes listed as the 
price. " seems to suggest that new objects are created by the 
transaction, implying that if I decide to sell Wads of Ersure for 1A 
apiece, I can then buy a bunch without ever needing to create them.
7) I'd prefer something like Nomopolis, Nomiburg, or Nomham to 
Nomi-city, mostly because I dislike hyphens in object names except when 
absolutely neccessary.

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Wonko

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