Re: [s-d] Re: [s-b] [auto] BvS submits p28

[Alex Truelsen <dichotomousmind@xxxxxxxxx>]

> 
> 
> > BvS has submitted a new proposal, p28.
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Proposal 28/0: Boxes Within Boxes
> > A Standard Proposal by BvS
> > Last modified on nweek 86, nday 8
> >
> > Create a new section of the Ruleset named "Generic Definitions" with
> > the following rule in it:
> 
> Did you just invent a political party system for the sole purpose of
> filling your "Definitions" section?


That would be funny, but no, this is just one of the things I wanted to put 
in that section but knew it would take more than a day of discussion after I 
proposed it.

> {{
> > == Political Parties ==
> >
> > There exist organizations called Political Parties, or Parties. A
> > Player of B Nomic may not be a member of more than one Political Party
> > at any given time. Each Party must have a uniquely identifying name.
> >
> > Each Political Party must have a Platform. A Party's Platform is a
> > Game Document laying out the set of beliefs that members of that Party
> > hold [[such as what should be legal in the Game, what the direction of
> > the Game should be, how the Game should be played, etc.]]. The purpose
> > of a Party's existence is the promotion of these beliefs.
> >
> > Each Political Party must have a Chair. The Chair of a Party is the
> > leader of that Party, responsible for representing the Party's
> > interests in debate (when appropriate) and creating a list each nweek
> > of which proposals on the Ballot for that nweek are supported or
> > opposed by eir Party. Parties may also have no stance on a proposal
> > [[and it is suggested that Parties exercise this option rather than
> > simply opposing props they don't support, to prevent partisanship from
> > freezing the Game]]. Each Party's list, known as that Party's Line,
> > must be sent before voting begins each nweek, to all members of that
> > Party at a minimum. [[It is requested but not required that Party
> > Chairs post their Party Line in a public forum.]]
> 
> Perhaps require that the Chair be a member of the Party?


Hmm... yeah, there's that. I'd never even considered that it would be 
otherwise.

> A Player who is not a member of any Party may create a new Party by
> > posting its name and Platform in a public forum. That player becomes
> > the new Party's Chair. If at any time there are no members of a Party,
> > the Party is disbanded. A Player may leave their Party at any time by
> > stating their intention to leave in a public forum. No restriction may
> > be placed on a Player's ability to leave their Party.
> >
> > Each Political Party is responsible for establishing its own internal
> > rules regarding the selection of Chairs, modification of its Platform,
> > requirements for joining (if any), conformity to the Party Line, and
> > internal positions other than Chair, as well as any other rules the
> > Party's members wish. No rule may attempt to alter the internal
> > workings of an individual Party. This paragraph takes precedence over
> > all other rules that contradict it.
> 
> What good is the second-to-last sentence? It seems unlikely that
> anybody would do such a thing accidentally, and anyone proposing to do
> it intentionally would also presumably alter this rule to make it
> legal. In effect you're just making it more irritating for future
> players who may come up with an interesting way to do this.


But I don't want people to be able to fiddle with the workings of Parties 
that aren't theirs. If all this sentence does is make it slightly harder to 
do so through a proposal, then it's still worth it - if a majority really 
want that sort of chaos to be possible, then that's how it'll go. Whether or 
not the loophole someone finds is interesting, if the purpose is to sabotage 
another group of players, I don't like it. Win through a scam that boosts 
you, not that pushes someone else down.

--
> Wonko
> 
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> take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet
> place and kill him.
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