Re: [spoon-discuss] obsolete wiki pages

[Daniel Lepage <dpl33@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Aug 1, 2004, at 7.56 PM, Jeremy Cook wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 07:40:36PM -0400, Daniel Lepage wrote:
> > On Aug 1, 2004, at 6.06 PM, Jeremy Cook wrote:
> >
> > > Anyone have a problem with removing from the Wiki the Body Of
> > > Philosophy,
> > > which no longer exists, or the rules reset proposals?
> >
> > I'd like to keep the Rules reset props, if you don't mind. I think
> > there are some good things in some of them, and I don't think we're
> > nearly as close to an adminless game as we ought to be.
>
> True. We could make another minister to do the recognition you've been
> doing, you know, and then we'd have an adminless game (though we'd
> probably want to split it up, or set up a rotating system).

The whole point of recognition is to ensure that everything gets put 
into public displays. At the moment, I'm the only one who can edit the 
database directly, so for now I'm the only one qualified to recognize 
rule changes, card changes, etc.

What I'd really like to do is become sort of a Minister of History. 
Other people could write code to display current proposals, count 
votes, etc., and then at the end of each nweek they'd send me big 
chunks of XML containing all that nweek's props, some sort of 
description of all the rulechanges, etc., and I'd just put the XML 
stuff into the database so Historical Docs, etc. can search it all.

Then I'd also be in charge of keeping the website there, adding new 
functionality to the wiki if needed, etc.; I could also be what my 
reset-ruleset called the "Minster of Etc.", the guy responsible for 
kludging together quick and dirty ways of tracking new game concepts 
until we appoint somebody to track them properly.

That's my dream job, anyway.

As it stands, I'll probably end up doing the latter anyway as soon as 
new game concepts start cropping up again, but I also have to go edit 
the database whenever the rules are changed, or funny things happen 
with cards, or somebody makes a CFI, and I have to enter proposals into 
the wiki, etc. I also currently seem to be in charge of writing most of 
the automation code - so far the only player to donate code has been 
Phil, who wrote python modules for scanning XML proposals into python 
objects, and then for turning those objects into nice HTML. I am very 
thankful for this code.

I hope to have proposals running smoothly soon, at which point we'll be 
able to submit them automatically through the wiki and I'll be able to 
stop worrying about that.

If anyone wants to create a Ministry of Cards, btw, I'd be happy to 
turn the current card info in the database into whatever format you'd 
like and send it to you. I have on record the full description of every 
card, and a list (by playerid and cardid) of who holds which cards. I'd 
also be happy to put any scripts other people write up on bnomic.org; 
email me if you want more information about how things are setup.

Also, we talked at one point about making a very simple language to 
describe rule change. It would save me a lot of time if we had such a 
thing in effect - as it stands, I have to go through and edit each rule 
one by one, so even repealing rules gets tedious.

I propose (informally, not as a Game Object) that we use something like 
this:
CREATE rule
{{
__$TITLE__ {*$CHUTZPAH,($KEYWORDS)*}

$BODY
}}

REPLACE r$rulenumber
{{
__$TITLE__ {*$CHUTZPAH,($KEYWORDS)*}

$BODY
}}

REPEAL r$rulenumber

This of course leaves out a lot of things - changing just one section, 
doing conditional changes, etc. - but for the moment those can be done 
by hand, as I've been doing them. In the above, the Chutzpah and 
Keywords are always optional, and the title is option with a REPLACE 
command. The capitalization of CREATE, REPLACE, and REPEAL is 
important, so that it's easy for me to distinguish between commands and 
normal proposal text; this could also be done by delimiting the 
sections of 'propcode' as in
<propcode>
create rule{{ ...
</propcode>
or by doing some other crazy thing to the command words ("#create 
rule","::ETAERC!%:rule:", or whatever)

Anyhow, those are my thoughts. Comments? Ideas?

--
Wonko

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that 
you end up being governed by your inferiors."
     -Plato

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