Re: [spoon-discuss] hard drive failures...

[bd <bdonlan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Friday 07 May 2004 05:48 pm, Bill Adlam wrote:
> bd wrote:
> > The Cop's job could be handled by the individual ministers - they
> > know their
> > own domain best after all. And the Animator can also (in most cases)
> > be
> > handled by other ministers. There's also a script to fill Randy's
> > position,
> > it was used in thermodynomic IIRC.
>
> There are plenty of actions that don't fit easily into the remit of any
> minister (e.g. transferring the scarf).  And there are plenty that
> concern more than one minister (e.g. voting).  It's no good if one
> minster validates an action and another invalidates it.  It's also a
> bad thing if a later action gets confirmed before an earlier one.

There could be a minister of miscellany, resposible for the stuff that dosen't 
fall under other ministers' domains. And for other actions, I don't see the 
problem. E.g.:
* Player votes
* Voting minister acknowledges
* [time passes]
* Voting minister announces results
* Rules minister (and anyone else involved) implements changes, announces the 
fact

If ministers disagree about legality, the normal CFI process could be 
followed.

> This could be viable if we add more ministers, regulating cards,
> beverages, societies, eclairs, etc., but I think it's safer to have one
> minister validating all actions.  That at least keeps events in order,
> and makes the responsibilities clear even when the rules change.

It, however, carries the downside that said minister must be fluent in all of 
the ruleset, and could be a bottleneck in the game - currently most actions 
must be validated and implemented by the administrator - this would be the 
same, except the minister would validate all actions, and need not implement 
them.

> > The need for a Sage could be eliminated by not stopping the clock,
> > and saving
> > the time as a delta from UTC. However, this would mean eliminating
> > fixed
> > deadlines for the most part - how about a minister must recognize an
> > action
> > within 3 ndays, and proposals enter voting x ndays after being
> > proposed,
> > independent of other proposals?
>
> Let's not try that until we've completed the handover of power and got
> things functioning at a slower pace.
>
> [snip]
>
> > Also, a seperate mailing list for ministers wouldn't be a bad idea,
> > and
> > perhaps another for the automatic dice roller (the ministers would
> > need to
> > restate the information in their reports - the roller's CC to the
> > list would
> > be used for validation)
>
> A working roller would be a fine addition to the game, especially if
> provided with suitably quirky sources of entropy.  I don't think we
> need any extra mailing lists though.

Found it, and it was actually Agora, not Thermo: http://www.pbm.com/dice/

-- 
bd
Bachelor:
	A man who chases women and never Mrs. one.
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