Re: [spoon-discuss] historiographic comments

[Joel Uckelman <uckelman@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thus spake =?iso-8859-1?q?Bill=20Adlam?=:
> The learned BvS writes:
> 
> > -I think we have different notions of "all-out." There have been
> > dozens if not hundreds of wars between European states since the
> > Peace of Westphalia (which was in 1638, and established the
> > recognition of states by other states)....
> 
> You mean 1648.  See, I am paying attention.
> 
> I thought about the Thirty Years' War, but decided that although the
> Holy Roman Empire was unmatched in Europe it was not a world power -
> the Emperor's influence was strictly local, like China, Persia, the
> Mughals, or the Ottomans.  France and Spain were world powers, but
> their participation was limited.  And the contemporary wars in the
> British Isles were within a world power.  So by my off-the-cuff
> definition it doesn't count.  

What ought to count instead is the Seven Years War, which involved every 
major power in Europe and was the first war to take place worldwide.

-- 
J.


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