[spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Prop: kickbacks?

[Bill Adlam <sagitta_elegans@xxxxxxxxx>]

Those steel toes feel too strong to me.  Removing the 'specific
proposals' part means it deals with all past, present and future votes
in a general way.

Discrimination based on voting actions includes new philosophies that
require their adherents to vote in certain ways to get bonus votes, and
anything based on Activity.  Furthermore, anything that affects the
success or failure of proposals can discriminate indirectly by denying
a player contrary vote points e would otherwise have received.

The wording is a little strange too.  A proposal can't specify or call
for discriminatory effects, but by implication it can still have them. 
In which case there's nothing to stop those effects occurring (and
possibly giving the author more than 20 points).  Is the 20-point fine
meant to be imposed once when a potentially discriminatory proposal
passes, or does it happen every time any player is actually
discriminated against?

Perhaps it would be better to only forbid effects that discriminate
according to players' voting history up to the point the prop passed.
You could allow an exception for effects that depend only on Activity,
or narrow the prohibition to effects that depend on what the vote was.

Sagitta


> {{__Steel-Toed Kickbacks__
> 
> Replace the text of Rule 155 with the following:
> 
> {{
> No proposal shall call for effects that discriminate in any way
> between
> players based on their voting actions. If a proposal specifies such
> effects, such effects shall not occur.
> 
> The ways in which a proposal may attempt to discriminate between
> players
> based on their voting results include, but are not limited to:
> * Explicit statement [[ i.e. "Everyone who votes for this gains X
> points,"
> or "Everyone who voted against this loses X points" ]]
> * Adding, changing, or repealing rules, such that the text of the
> Ruleset
> or any Rulebook specifies instantaneous or recurring effects based
> upon
> the results of a prop [[ i.e. "Everyone who voted for X gains Y
> points.
> This rule repeals itself." ]]
> 
> If a proposal has other effects that do not discriminate in this
> fashion,
> those non-discriminatory effects occur.
> 
> If a proposal has effects that, directly or indirectly, discriminate
> against any player based on the voting record of that player, the
> author
> of that proposal shall lose 20 points.
> 
> The determination as to whether a proposal has discriminatory effects
> shall rest with the Administrator. The ruling of the Administrator
> may be
> challenged via the CFI process.
> 
> This rule takes precedence over Rule 19.
> 
> }}
> }}
> 
> The above is p1806/0.


	
	
		
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