Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Updates and stuff

[Daniel Lepage <dpl33@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Jan 30, 2004, at 2:56 PM, SkArcher wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:54:41 -0500, Glotmorf <dwhytock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
> wrote:
>
> > On 30 Jan 2004 at 14:02, Zarpint Jeremy Cook wrote:
> >
> > > That's no fun!
> > > I propose:
> > >
> > > {{__Support for Wonko: The Prop__
> > >
> > > Repeal Rule 155. [[We can have much more fun without it.]]
> > >
> > > }}
> >
> > Dude.  Rule 155 was BECAUSE of Wonko.

I protest. Rule 155 was submitted by Rob, in response to Uin. I hadn't  
even made any props at that point. I quote:
"Looking at some proposals uin has just submitted, I have to bring back
this A Nomic proposal:

<proposal title="No kickbacks">
<snip>
</proposal>"

See  
<http://lists.ellipsis.cx/archives/spoon-business/spoon-business 
-200112/msg00068.html>

Also see  
<http://lists.ellipsis.cx/archives/spoon-business/spoon-business 
-200112/msg00065.html>, the proposal Uin made which sparked this.

Oddly enough, the revision mentioned in the above message never made it  
into the database, it seems - the db lists two identical revisions of  
this prop.

> I suspect that Wonko knows this too and was only making eir props now  
> to later refactor them into an actually useable form, but overlooked  
> that e is not allowed to make props in that form.

That wasn't my intention at all! I thought it would be interesting to  
get a set of proposals out where the effects of each proposal depended  
on how everyone voted on the others, and the best case for everyone was  
to be in the minority - thus, if "foo" looks like it will pass, you  
want to be in the naysayers so that you'll get points from it; but if  
it fails, you want to have voted for it to get points from "bar".

Note also that there would be no benefit in making these now - it's  
already a new nweek, so I don't save any bandwidth doing this.

You have, however, hit upon exactly the right strategy to set up these  
proposals without breaking the rules. Fix forthcoming.

--
Wonko

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