Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: spoon-discuss Digest, Vol 5, Issue 17

[Daniel Lepage <dpl33@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thursday, November 27, 2003, at 12:15 AM, Glotmorf wrote:

> On 27 Nov 2003 at 5:05, SkArcher wrote:
>
> > Given that it is certainly true that Bandwidth doesn't currently do a
> > great deal, that is potentially viable; however, the bandwidth limit
> > does stop some potential abuses.
> >
> > Straw Poll: Who would Have an objection to doing away with bandwidth
> > _and_ a la cartes?
>
> You might want to have a look at the archives for way back around 
> nweek 2 or 3.
> Bandwidth is the only thing that keeps Wonko from submitting 20+ 
> proposals a turn.
>
> I am not exaggerating.

Come now, I don't think I ever made more than 18 in an nweek :)

Despite the fact that I am among the players most likely to profit from 
a relaxation of bandwidth restrictions, I would object to such a 
proposal.

In fact, I wonder if it might make things more interesting if we 
actually *decreased* the amount of bandwidth given to players, or 
somehow restricted it.
Back when we had the Grid, I'd been thinking about ways to a) cut 
players' bandwidths further and force them to somehow collect it on the 
grid, or b) create a variety of weapons and tools that cost bandwidth 
to operate; the idea was that since Dave was doing most of the Grid 
tracking at that point, we should make things that, if they created 
complexity in one part of the game, would reduce complexity in other 
parts.

Also, I seem to recall that the original goal of societies was to allow 
bandwidth pooling, but so far that's never been needed, as we hardly 
ever even come near our bandwidth limits, much less exceed them. If 
bandwidth were tighter, we could have some very interesting game 
dynamics.



As for ALC props, they could be simulated with normal proposals, if the 
author so chooses, simply by stating something like "If, in more than 
half of the messages sent to the public forum containg players' final 
votes on this proposal, that vote was a YES and was immediately 
followed by a list of numbers containing 2, then do this:"

The difference here is that the scoring doesn't get funky, and it also 
makes it harder to set up a good A La Carte prop, so unless you have 
something that really needs to be A La Carte, it's not worth the effort 
of making it.

So I am in favor of repealing A La Carte props, since we don't actually 
need them, and all they do is encourage complexity.

--
Wonko

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