SkArcher on 7 Nov 2003 16:42:14 -0000


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Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Go


On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:26:20 -0500, Daniel Lepage <dpl33@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


On Friday, November 7, 2003, at 03:11 AM, Glotmorf wrote:

As a request for clarification...wouldn't Wonko's F3 be illegal anyway, since it would
be placing a stone that would immediately be captured?

My two moves fell right over the checkpoint boundary, so that wasn't a problem.

I'm not sure why you'd think my stone would immediately be captured... it quite clearly wasn't.



Having considered the matter, I think Glotmorf is looking at it from the perspective of

"You may not play a piece in a position where it would be immediately Captured." r1639 section D paragraph 8

(this would be the reason the baron cannot move back at I9 - Ian and myself would capture eir piece instantly)

however, this does not apply to Wonko's move because

"If, as a result of a stone being placed, there exists more than one Dragon with no liberties, then the player making the capturing move chooses in what order they are captured. If a capture creates Liberties for a Dragon that had none, then the Dragon with the newly-found Liberties is not captured." r1639 section D paragraph 9

(meaning that the baron can move here because he gets to chose which dragon gets captured first - his own or glotmorfs. Since capturing glotmorfs dragon creates a liberty for em eir dragon is not captured thereafter, which allows this to be a valid move)


The board state right now is therefore;

   A B C D E F G H I J K L M
13 . . . . . . T . . . . . . 13
12 . . T . V V V . . T . . . 12
11 . . . B . . B I . . . . . 11
10 . . . . R B I . I I . . . 10
 9 . . R . . V T I . S . T . 9
 8 . . . . . V . V S . . . . 8
 7 . . . R . . V . . . . . . 7
 6 . . . . . I W W . R W . . 6
 5 V R V . I . . W . . . . . 5
 4 . . . R T . W W W V . . . 4
 3 . . . R G W R W V . . . . 3
 2 . . . . R R G V . . . . . 2
 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
   A B C D E F G H I J K L M

[V]!Baron von Skippy    0 points    Allies: bd, Rob, Glotmorf
[R]*Rob                 0 points    Allies: Glotmorf, Baron von Skippy
[W] Wonko               0 points    Allies: Teucer
[I] Iain                0 point     Allies: Teucer
[T] Teucer              0 point     Allies: Iain, Wonko
                                    Offers: bd
[G]!Glotmorf           -2 points    Allies: Rob, Baron von Skippy
[B] bd                  1 point     Allies: Baron von Skippy
[S] SkArcher            1 point     No Allies
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