Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Oops

[Daniel Lepage <dplepage@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 11:31  AM, Glotmorf wrote:

> On 8/10/03 at 10:41 PM Baron von Skippy wrote:
>
> > > > I really would not classify IT or the 'repeal all national laws' as
> > > > "functional silliness".
> > >
> > > Oh, I dunno...IT did give us Lake Caffeine...
> > -That reminds me... I'm working on a new Gridlike thing that would
> > incorporate most of the basics of the old Grid (say, revision 5 or 
> > so),
> > but not the shape... this could be a sticking point, so I'll bring it 
> > up
> > in discussion. I'm envisioning this being the area outside the old 
> > Grid
> > (whose existence was denied by the masses when the Empire Grid prop 
> > was
> > shot down), with a big Grid-shaped hole in one side. For reasons 
> > which are
> > mostly aesthetic, I'm thinking a big circle, 40 spaces wide, with most
> > (96%) of a 20x20 square chopped out of its middle and lower left, 
> > leaving
> > two thin arms on the left and bottom. There could also be islands or
> > something in the hole - I recall the grid-nuking prop saying something
> > about a quarter of the mass surviving. Anyway, we're talking about
> > something around 850-900 squares (I counted twice and got very 
> > different
> > answers, so I have to find a new method of counting), which seems 
> > kind of
> > big, although I'd like to see some faster transport on this Grid that
> > makes the size I'm talking about less of a big deal. We could also 
> > put new
> > ideas onto this Grid, like that channeling thing we were discussing a
> > little while ago. Anyway, this isn't at all urgent. As I recall, Dave 
> > can
> > (and probably will) veto any prop that attempts to make this unless it
> > provides a Ministry to keep track, and I won't be able to set up such 
> > a
> > thing for a little while, never mind find a way to describe in a rule 
> > a
> > circle with a square cut out of it...
> >
> > Any thoughts other than "Baron, maybe you should lie down for a little
> > while?"-
>
> How about you make it on the outside of a cylinder?  That'll give you 
> your circle, and still allow the squares to be, like, you know, 
> whatcha call...square.

Then it's just a square with an edge wrap on one axis. I think e means 
with square squares, and a hole cut from it like a circle in a bitmap, 
pixel-like.

Though I don't see how we're going to be able to track 900 squares. 
Movement isn't going to be the problem, I think - just *looking* at 
that much space is going to be hard. We'll spend a good five minutes 
each day just finding ourselves. (Before anyone calls me a hypocrite 
(at least for this), yes, I am aware that I was at one point advocating 
a 7200 square grid. This is the reason I decided not to propose it)

I also believe we have a grid already, defined in rule 1635. We just 
aren't using it.

Yet.

--
Wonko

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