Daniel Lepage on 16 Jul 2003 03:12:01 -0000

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Re: [spoon-discuss] Where do we go from here?

On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 10:40  PM, Baron von Skippy wrote:

such actions. (because otherwise, the action could change the rules to
nullify Dave's veto before Dave got the chance to).

Dave's veto could be assumed to be retroactive.

But what happens if you get sick, or go on vacation? Does everything
just shut down?

You get a new minister?

It is far too complicated to just hot potato on the fly like that, Its like when teh GridMin vannished

-What ever happens when a Minister goes away? This is a problem with any Ministry, not just this one. What about a backup Minister? Or something like that? And
don't ask me what happens if the second Minister goes away as well. You might as well ask "what if SkyNet blows us all to kingdom come?" Well, then the Ministry
won't be updated, will it?-

And the resulting discrepancies, undetermined game state and hassles don't instantly make you declare this fatally flawed?

-Not unless you want to destroy all the Ministries for the same reason and give all the work back to Dave. Every new person who does some work increases the odds that we have a pause in some section of the game. This is nothing new. So why is it a big problem now?-

Because small pauses in things like Gnomes and the Force don't make that much of a difference. Pauses in things like The Grid, though, have been very bad. For a similarly large Ministry, such as your proposed Source ministry, I imagine this would be a significant problem.

Actually, I've been thinking about how to take care of pauses in ministries in general, because they are bad and annoying. A delay of a day or two is only to be expected; we can't reasonably demand that every minister check eir email every day. But long delays are bad in any ministry, even the small ones.

If we set up a Wiki system, then I can see this working; we could establish societies in charge of maintaining things like the Grid, and the Duties system can handle all the trivial ministries.


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