Baron von Skippy on 1 Oct 2002 01:48:04 -0000 |
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Re: [spoon-discuss] A proposal for next nweek? |
>> >*It must not be able to make proposals >>>>This I don't see. Yes, three people who can get together for the purpose >>of manufacturing can form a separate club for the purpose of block voting>>and profit sharing, but...why? > >-Sounds to me like it's partly because that's not what a Corporation is >going to do in his vision, partly that vSOI and WBE already can't make >proposals and never will, but are natural choices for Corportionhood, and >maybe partly because M-Tek can, but that's just a guess.-vSOI could make proposals if you wanted it to. All you'd have to do is change the charter.
-M-Tek could not make proposals if you didn't want it to. All you'd have to do is change the charter.-
WBE can't do anything, because it doesn't exist. The proposal that's trying to create it is illegal, because it's not creating a society the way the rules say a proposal can create a society. Wonko's "proposals change the game state" argument doesn't work, because r10 says proposals can't temporarily circumvent the rules.
-Neener neener... so you've got a little more time before it does.-
>> >*It must have resource pools of BNS, Points, and Units >> >>And provisions for distributing same to members. >>-Why all three, Wonko? vSOI works with points, WBE with BNS, what if M-Tek>took Units and we didn't need to all have everything?-WBE as it's proposed uses units too...it has to have them in order to construct its stuff. Even if M-Tek didn't need points to build things, if it ever wanted to sell what it built it'd need a pool of either points or BNS to receive payment.
-This is true. Oh, wait, I'm being dumb. vSET will have and handle all three types, if it gets lands going. This assumes that all three of those proposals passed.-
>> >*It must have a Minister associated with it who keeps track of its >> >attributes >> >>This'll be a pain in the butt, unless you're thinking of a Minister of>>Societies. Otherwise, if I form a club out of the blue, and add a couple>>members, I can't go corporate unless I somehow find a minister first? > >-Ditto. Wonko, this will suck. Unless you expand that: a Corporation must >have a Minister defined by the Charter who also holds more power in the >company and is not paid a salary. It's still not great, but it's a little >better.-Possibly a Market Minister, or a Corporation Minister. I take it back about the Minister of Societies...Sorry, Dave, but I think charter changes should stick with you.
-Yeah, a general minister is way better than one each.-
-So they make a method for initiating new members: "To become a member of Club Thought Experiment, the player who wishes to become a member must give each current club member 100 points, 1000 BNS, 500 Units, and $50 American." It's legal, but no one will DO it.->> >*It must have a method for adding new members >> >>A good idea, along with provision for losing members, but why make it >>mandatory? > >-Why not make it mandatory?-Because there may come into existence a club of three people that wouldn't want to remain a club if any of the three were to quit...maybe a short-term venture or a special-purpose thing. Requiring a method for adding members is like requiring all three types of pools: why should it be required if it's not necessary?Glotmorf
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