Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Proposal

[Wonko <dplepage@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Quoth Glotmorf,

> On 7/3/02 at 11:49 PM Wonko wrote:
> 
>> Quoth Glotmorf,
>> 
>>> On 7/3/02 at 6:38 PM Wonko wrote:
>>> 
>>>> {{
>>>> __Cleaning up everything__
>>>> 
>>>> Prevent all societies declared in the past nweek from existing.
>>>> 
>>>> Change the sentence "All Members of a Society auto-vote "yes" on any
>>>> proposal the Society submits." in rule 578 to read "All Players in a
>>>> Society
>>>> auto-vote "yes" on any proposal the Society submits."
>>>> 
>>>> Change the sentence "Players in the list other than the Player declaring
>>>> the
>>>> Society must state their acceptance of membership into the Society in
>> the
>>>> same nweek as the declaration, or will be dropped from the list of
>> initial
>>>> Members." in rule 578 to read "Entities in the list other than the
>> Player
>>>> declaring the Society must state their acceptance of membership into the
>>>> Society in the same nweek as the declaration, or will be dropped from
>> the
>>>> list of initial Members. "
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> }}
>>> 
>>> "Prevent"?  You're writing this based on the assumption that the
>> societies in
>>> question don't exist yet.  This is a flawed interpretation of the rules
>> on
>>> your part.  If the societies do in fact exist at this time (and I
>> maintain
>>> that they do exist), this proposal becomes another violation of Rule 204.
>> 
>> "If, at the end of the nweek in which the Society was declared, a proposal
>> that nweek has barred it from existing, or the Society would have no
>> Members, the Charter is discarded and the Society does not exist."
>> 
>> I'm proposing to bar the societies from existing. If it passes, the Charter
>> is discarded and the Society does not exist.
> 
> You might want to use the word "bar", then.  "Prevent" isn't defined, and the
> dictionary definition doesn't work here.

To 'prevent' something from happening and to 'bar' it from happening are the
some thing. Or so says the American Heritage Dictionary. I assume that the
societies in question do not exist because the rule indicates that this is
the case, in much the same manner as I assume the game is called B Nomic
because a rule indicates that this is the case.

-- 
Wonko

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