spoon-discuss: Re: spoon-business: CFI 727 Appeal

[Wonko <dplepage@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Quoth Glotmorf,

> On 5/24/02 at 9:05 AM Wonko wrote:
> 
>> Quoth Naath Thabana,
>> 
>>> Statement: As of the time this CFI was issued, Iain
>>> was not and had never been a member of M-Tek.
>>> 
>>> Defendant: Glotmorf
>>> 
>>> Analysis:
>>> 
>>> Players may not change the gamestate unless a rule
>>> explicitly permits them to. Iain's joining of M-Tek
>>> was a change to the gamestate. Therefore, Iain could
>>> not have joined M-Tek unless a rule permitted em to.
>>> However, no rule permitted em to join.
>>> 
>>> Although M-Tek's Charter outlines methods for the
>>> addition of players to M-Tek, the Charter only has the
>>> force of rule for members of the club. Thus, unless
>>> one is already a member of the club, one cannot join
>>> the club.
>>> 
>>> Judgement:
>>> False, Ian is a member of M-Tek.
>>> 
>>> Why:
>>> Because he joined in the way prescribed by the M-Tek
>>> charter.  There is no other rule saying that Ian may
>>> *not* join M-Tek in this way
>> 
>> I appeal this CFJ on the grounds that there is a rule saying that Iain may
>> not join M-Tek in this way. It's the Default Case, which says that players
>> may not change the gamestate.
>> 
>> --
>> Wonko
> 
> As a member of the Upper House, I rule FALSE on CFI 727.
> 
> For analysis I reiterate an earlier statement regarding this CFI:
> 
> The Default Case, Rule 393, says it defers to all other rules.
> 
> M-Tek was created via a Charter Prop.
> 
> Rule 631 says Charter Props create Clubs.
> 
> Rule 578 says a Club is a Society.
> 
> Rule 578 says entities may be members of Societies.
> 
> Iain, by accepting my invitation, declared emself to be a member of M-Tek.
> 
> Rule 631 says members of a Club must obey the rules stated in the Club's
> Charter.
> 
> The Club Charter for M-Tek dictates the circumstances whereby a person can
> become a member.
> 
> The circumstances under which Iain declared emself a member is consistent with
> the circumstances outlined in the M-Tek Club Charter.
> 
> Therefore, Iain is obeying the rules in the M-Tek Club Charter that determine
> whether or not e is a member.
> 
> Since Rule 393 defers to all other rules, it defers to Rules 578 and 631, in
> conjunction with the M-Tek Charter.

Ah. Then the fact that the LOOP Charter permits me to take points from the
Gremlin Fund also makes it legal, via the same logic, no?

<mrburns> Excellent. </mrburns>

-- 
Wonko