Glotmorf on 21 May 2002 13:52:39 -0000


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Re: spoon-discuss: Re: spoon-business: Proosal: Violent green.


On 5/21/02 at 9:25 AM Glotmorf wrote:

>On 5/21/02 at 7:06 AM Gavin Doig wrote:
>
>><proosal>
>><title>Violent green.</title>
>><body>
>>Create a new rule, titled "Not the same as apathy.", with a chutzpah of 5,
>>and the following @@@-delimited text:
>>@@@
>>A player may become Disinterested by stating that they are doing so. At
>>this time they are removed from any groups or football teams they are in,
>>fumble the football if they have it, and are placed in Limbo if they are
>>not there already.
>>
>>Disinterested players:
>>Have a score, charm, and entropy of 0.
>>Are not eligible to receive the sushi, the scarf, the token of proposals,
>>or the immunity idol.
>>May not play football.
>>Are in Limbo.
>>May not give, and are not eligible to receive, a Kick in the Ass.
>>May not be in a group.
>>Are treated as if they have the Immunity Idol.
>>Are not eligible to receive the Immunity Idol.
>>
>>This rule takes precedence over any other which would otherwise alter the
>>state of a Disinterested player to be in conflict with this rule.
>>@@@
>>[[Have I missed anything? All I really want to leave are proosing and
>>judging. Oh, and voting.]]
>>
>>The player who submitted this proposal becomes Disinterested.
>></body>
>></proosal>
>>
>>uin.
>
>How about adding a provision for once again becoming Interested?
>
>Hey, it could happen.
>
>Aside from that...perhaps, "May not possess, receive, acquire and/or
>purchase Objects"?
>
>						Glotmorf

I suppose I should say...I'm not real inclined to vote in favor of this the way it is now.  Not because of the grid, or football, or the scarf...but because these things are what the game has become.  It carries with it certain restrictions, such as Entropy and the Sushi, and those are imposed on all players.  To say all you want to do is propose, vote and judge is fine, and that's generally the basis of any given Nomic, but to say you don't want to be subject to the same restrictions, procedures, etc. that other players are is to say you don't want to be playing the game that B Nomic has become.  And if that's the case...why are you here?  Why aren't you off starting or joining some other Nomic without the rules that this one has now, rather than trying to play in a game without following the rules?

I'm not asking you to leave...I'm just wondering why, if you're so Disinterested, you should stay.

Drop the zero Score, Charm and Entropy requirement, and I might feel better.  Otherwise, that's too much of letting you do what you want with no consequence for your actions.

						Glotmorf