spoon-discuss: Re: spoon-business: von Skippy Overproduction, Inc.

["Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 5/16/02 at 11:14 PM Alex Truelsen wrote:

>{{
>__Healthy Competition__
>
>Create a charter proposal with the following DINK-delimited text:
>
>DINK
>__von Skippy Overproduction, Inc.__
>
>There exists a Club, called von Skippy Overproduction, Inc., or vSOI.
>
>Players may join vSOI only by consent of the CEO of vSOI, or by unanimous
>consent of all non-CEO members of vSOI, so long as there are more than two
>non-CEO members of vSOI.
>
>Non-CEO members of vSOI may be ousted by the CEO or by the consent of all
>other non-CEO members of vSOI, or they may resign by posting eir intention
>to do so in a message to a public forum. The CEO of vSOI may resign as
>well,
>in which case the member who has been a member the longest becomes CEO, or
>e
>may be Sacked by al non-CEO members posting messages to a Public Forum
>declaring that they wish to Sack the CEO, in which case the first member
>to
>declare eir intention to Sack the CEO shall become CEO. If not all members
>declare eir intention to Sack the CEO within one nweek of the first
>player's
>declaration, the first player to declare eir intention shall be ousted. A
>Sacked CEO is no longer a member of vSOI.
>
>vSOI may not make proposals.
>
>At the start of each nweek, each member of vSOI shall recieve one random
>Gnome. Any member may also purchase a random Gnome for 5 points, or a
>specific Gnome for 10 points, from the vSOI Gnome Account. Any non-member
>player may purchase a random Gnome from the vSOI Gnome Account for 10
>points, or a specific Gnome for 15 points. If at any time there are more
>than 200 points in the Gnome Account, distribute all points in the Gnome
>Account evenly between all members of vSOI, giving any remainder to the
>Gremlin Fund.
>
>The CEO of vSOI may not also be the Prez of M-Tek. In the event of this
>happening, the CEO of vSOI shall be replaced as though e had resigned, and
>shall be made a non-CEO member of vSOI.
>
>Baron von Skippy is the first member of vSOI, and the first CEO of vSOI.
>DINK
>}}
>
>[[If any of that is confusing/confused, please tell me. It's late, and
>I've
>never made a Charter Prop before.]]

It's my belief -- hence the argument with Wonko -- that the current version of the charter prop rule doesn't grant a charter prop the authority to make a charter that does anything but say how members can join, how members can be ousted, who the first member is, and whether and how the club can make a club prop.  So stuff that controls the creation of gnomes and the assigning of them to people is outside the authority of the charter prop.

There's a reason for this.

My idea for charter props was a quickie way of creating clubs, one that didn't require the approval of a lot of players but nevertheless could be overturned if everyone decided to do so.  This should be acceptable for any club that doesn't have a significant impact on the rest of the game, but only exists for the sake of its members.  Things that create and distribute points, or create and distribute grid objects, etc. are things everyone should be willing to approve; otherwise, as Wonko's example indicated, it would be blatantly unfair.

Now...this isn't to say that a club can't be formed whose members get gnomes as door prizes.  It's just that it'd have to be created using a regular proposal, which would require at least 1/2 of the votes to be affirmative.

Hey, you never know...

						Glotmorf