Re: spoon-discuss: Re: spoon-business: The propothal I mithed

[Eric Gerlach <egerlach@xxxxxxxxxx>]

At 09:51 PM 2002-04-10 -0400, you wrote:
> On 4/10/02 at 7:55 PM Eric Gerlach wrote:
>
> >{{
> >__The Ministers of the Realm__
> >
> >{{
> >__Ministers__
> >
> >There exist titles defining Ministers of the form "Minister of X", where X
> >is a unique designator.  These titles are known as Ministries [[ This is a
> >good enough defn for now ]].  A Ministry may only be assigned to a player
> >as expicitly allowed by the rules.  Only one player may hold any given
> >Ministry at any given time, and a player may only hold one Ministry at any
> >given time.
> >
> >Any proposal that would create a rule that defines a Ministry must also
> >create rules that define the Powers and Responsabilities of that
> >Ministry.  These rules may all be conincident.
> >
> >The Powers of a Ministry is a list of actions.  A player that holds a
> >Ministry may perform any of the actions in the Powers of their Ministry as
> >if e were the Administrator.
> >
> >The Responsabilities of a Ministry is a list of actions that a Minister
> >must perform.
> >
> >The Administrator may perform all the duties of any Minister if e so
> >chooses.  The Administrator may also hold Titles which are also
> >Ministries.  This rule supercedes Rule 263 in this regard.
> >}}
> >
> >{{
> >__Ministerial Elections__
> >
> >If at any time no player (or The Administrator) holds a Ministry, an
> >Election is called for that Ministry.  The Election consists of two
> >phases:  a Nomination phase immediately followed by a Voting Phase, each
> >of
> >which are 5 ndays long.  The Nomination phase of the Election begins at
> >the
> >first beginning of an nday after the Ministry is not held by any Player or
> >The Administrator.
> >
> >During the Nomination phase, a player may nominate another player or
> >emself
> >for the Ministry by declaring so in a public forum.  After a player has
> >been nominated, a player may second the nomination by declaring so in a
> >public forum.  If a nomination is seconded, the player nominated becomes a
> >Candidate for the Ministry.  The Administrator is always a Candidate for
> >every Election.
> >
> >At the end of the Nomination phase, the Administrator shall issue a List
> >of
> >Candidates for the Election containing all the names of the Candidates for
> >the Ministry.
> >
> >During the Voting phase, players may cast one vote for one name on the
> >List
> >of Candidates for the Election by doing so in a public forum.  [[ Public
> >voting only for Ministers ]]  The Administrator may also vote for one name
> >of the List of Candidates, however there is no limit to the number of
> >votes
> >The Administrator may make.
> >
> >At the end of the voting phase, the player (or The Administrator) whose
> >name recieved the most votes is awarded the Ministry for one nyear, at
> >which point it is revoked.  If there is an equal number of votes for one
> >or
> >more names, The Administrator must cast another vote to break the tie, at
> >which point the Ministry is awarded as above.
> >}}
> >
> >{{
> >__Ministerial Non-Confidence__
> >
> >If a Minister who is not On Leave fails to perform one of the
> >Responsabilities of eir Ministry within two ndays of the first opportunity
> >that Minister had to perform the action, a player may call for a Vote of
> >Non-Confidence in that Ministry by indicating e is doing so in a public
> >forum.
> >
> >A Vote of Non-Confidence is a proposal.  If a Vote of Non-Confidence
> >passes, the Minister in question is stripped of eir Ministry.  [[ Thus an
> >Election will be called. ]]
> >}}
> >
> >Give half of the points gained by Bean for the passage of this proposal to
> >Wild Card.
> >
> >[[  Some Notes:
> >
> >Ministries won't be able to be created in a vacuum.  We're going to have
> >to
> >consult the Admin on each one... here's a case where that veto may come in
> >handy.  However, if we all co-operate a bit, and pick good
> >responsabilities
> >for the Ministers (Dave, you wanna suggest some... heck... propose some?),
> >this will make our beloved Admin's life that much easier :)
> >
> >Yes, I know Votes of Non-Confidence count for points and charm... but
> >don't
> >you think they should? :)
> >]]
> >
> >}}
>
> First off, "responsibilities" doesn't have an "a" in it...:)

Oopth, I hope that the adminithtrator ith kind enough to fix that.

> Aside from that, it's an interesting idea.  I'm only worried that 
> performing certain ministries might require access to the server that 
> neither its owner nor Mr. A would be willing to provide.  Sufficient 
> coding might allow a given ministry to be performed...but sufficient 
> coding might also make a ministry entirely unnecessary.

I think ith greatetht uthe will be with thingth like Gremlinth, or The 
Grid, where the file can be anywhere... in fact I think that the firtht 
Minithter I'm going to propothe will be the Minithter of Electhionth, 
rethponthable for handling Minithterial Electhionth.  I think that hath a 
thertain inherent beauty to it, n'etht pas?

Like I thaid though, Minithterth will have to be approved by the 
admin.  You'll note that even if a Minithter geth created by a rule, The 
Admin can uthurp em by taking the dutieth on emthelf (by voting for "The 
Admin" 1 000 000 timeth during the electhion :).

> Certain things can be accomplished on other servers, like Yahoo with its 
> sharable file and notepad folders and Delphi with its flat-file databases, 
> though for safety's sake anything not on the main server should probably 
> be backed up from time to time, since players do, for whatever reason, 
> disappear.

Exactly.  I think for many thingth we don't even need that much.... jutht 
thomthing akin to what you did with your PIG calculator.

> Is this a first, or have other Nomics tried distributed administration?

I'm thure other nomicth have done thith... I jutht can't think of any 
exampleth.

Bean