Doig, Gavin on 21 Jan 2002 18:32:23 -0000

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RE: spoon-discuss: RE: spoon-business: Proposal: No Kickbacks (Ju stice, Administered Piecemeal)

> Try this on, Platonist....
Ooh, a challenge. ;-)

> If, as you assert, only things permitted by the rules actually happen
> in our little nomic gameworld,

> then because this proposal would make submitting a kickback-laced
> CFJ against the rules,
<yoda>Hear you nothing that I say?</yoda>

That was my whole point. It *doesn't* *work*. It doesn't make submitting a
kickback-laced CFJ against the rules; it *tries* to, but all it does is make
you have to word it slightly differently (see below). If we want to stop
scam CFJs, we need ensure that CFJs don't actually alter things. When that's
true, your restrictions are irrelevant, and therefore largely symbolic. When
that's *not* true, your restrictions are trivially circumventable, and
therefore... largely symbolic.

I was going to put in examples of how, but I don't want to get bogged down
in a discussion of whether those particular examples work or not. The point
is that it's breakable, not whether I've broken it.


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