Harrison, Andrew on 23 Mar 2001 09:06:35 -0000


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spoon-discuss: RE: spoon-business: All right! We've got Cards!


Suggestion for a slight change - The way this stands means that players can
only play poker. If another card game gets added later then can you play two
games at once with the same cards? 

Here's my suggestion: When a showdown occurs each player must nominate (tell
the dealer) which 5 of their cards they wish to play in their poker hand. If
a player has less than 5 cards then they cannot play in this round and they
keep their cards. If a player has more than five cards then the cards they
do not play are kept in their hand for the next round. If a player has 10
cards they may nominate all ten in two hands, or just play 5 and keep 5. If
a player does not nominate their 5 cards then the dealer will pick the 5
cards that would give them the best result. (Note we have to give the player
the option of picking their own cards cos they might want to just throw away
some bad cards if they don't think they'd win anyway.)

Should a player be forced to play if they can?

Also, I don't think the dealer should be paid for the transfer. As an
elected official he will get a salary each nweek anyway. And what happens
when the dealer changes? The dealer knows the contents of everybodys hand,
so the new dealer would then need to be notified. Can the dealer play in the
card games?

And where's my card for this nweek anyway? The card is dealt at the
beginning of the nweek, and the rule was active at that time.

--
The Kid


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Speer [mailto:rob@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 22 March 2001 23:38
> To: spoon-business@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: spoon-business: All right! We've got Cards!
> 
> 
> [[ Now that we've got these decks of Cards, we might as well 
> play a game with
> them. I now present the rules for a variant of Poker that I 
> call Pooker. ]]
> 
> \begin{proposal}
> \title{Pooker}
> 1. Create a rule entitled "Pooker: Definitions" with the 
> following text:
> 
> Pooker is a game played with Nomic Cards. The object of the 
> game is to exchange
> Cards with other Players so that you have the best Poker Hand 
> or combination of
> Poker Hands.
> 
> A Trade is the process by which two Players exchange a 
> specified number of
> Cards. In a Trade, the dealer takes the Cards which one 
> Player wishes to trade
> to the other Player and changes their ownership to the other 
> Player, thus
> adding them to the other Player's hand. E then takes an equal 
> number of Cards
> which the other Player wishes to trade and changes their 
> ownership to the first
> Player in the same way. Both Players involved in a trade must 
> trade an equal
> number of Cards.
> 
> A game of Pooker ends in a Showdown, in which all Cards in 
> play are revealed
> and a prize of a certain number of Points goes to the Player
> or Players with the highest total Score of Poker Hands. After 
> a Showdown, all
> Cards are returned to the Deck to start a new game of Pooker.
> 
> 2. Create a rule entitled "Pooker: Trading" with the following text:
> 
> Any Player who has one or more Cards may arrange a Trade with 
> any other Player
> who has one or more Cards. They do this by making offers and 
> counter-offers
> with each other privately, and then notifying the Dealer of 
> the Trade they wish
> to make - both which Card or Cards e will give, and which 
> Card or Cards e plans
> to recieve.
> 
> The Dealer must be notified of the same trade by both Players involved
> in the trade. The Players also must each pay the Dealer a 
> transaction fee of
> one Point [[you'll notice that there's no other way for the 
> Dealer to get
> Points from this game]].
> 
> 3. Create a rule entitled "Pooker: the Showdown" with the following
> text:
> 
> A Player may make a Motion to Show Cards at any time as long 
> as no such Motion
> is already pending. A Motion to Show Cards is a Secondary 
> Approvable Motion
> which passes by being voted for by a majority of Players. 
> When a Motion to Show
> Cards passes, a Showdown occurs. The Dealer then posts a 
> message to a public
> Forum including the Cards held by each Player and the highest-scoring
> arrangement of each Player's Cards into Poker Hands.
> 
> Additionally, if a transfer of Cards (such as by Dealing) 
> causes one Player to
> own ten or more Cards, a Showdown automatically occurs.
> 
> The Player who has the highest total Score of eir Poker 
> Hand(s) is awarded a
> number of Points from the Bank equivalent to the total Score 
> of eir Poker
> Hand(s). If there is a tie for the highest Score, that number 
> of Points is
> given from the Bank and divided among the Player(s) involved 
> in the tie.
> 
> 4. Create a rule entitled "Pooker: Scoring" with the following text:
> 
> A Poker Hand is a set of one to five Cards owned by the same 
> Player. A Player
> may arrange eir Cards into more than one Poker Hand if it 
> would result in a
> higher Score or if e owns more than five Cards.
> 
> Poker Hands are scored as follows (statements at the top take 
> precedence):
> 
> If a Poker Hand contains five Cards of the same Rank, it is a 
> Five of a Kind,
> and has a Score of 80.
> 
> If a Poker Hand contains five Cards with the Ranks Ace, King, 
> Queen, Jack, and
> 10, and those Cards are all of the same Suit, it is a Royal 
> Flush, and has a
> Score of 80.
> 
> If a Poker Hand contains five Cards with consecutive Ranks 
> which are all of the
> same Suit, it is a Straight Flush, and has a Score of 70.
> 
> If a Poker Hand contains four Cards of the same Rank, it is a 
> Four of a Kind,
> and has a Score of 60.
> 
> If a Poker Hand contains three Cards of one Rank and two 
> cards of another, it
> is a Full House, and has a Score of 50.
> 
> If a Poker Hand contains five Cards of the same Suit, it is a 
> Flush, and has a
> Score of 40.
> 
> If a Poker Hand contains five Cards with consecutive Ranks [[such as
> 7-8-9-10-Jack]], it is a Straight, and has a Score of 35.
> 
> If a Poker Hand contains three Cards of the same Rank, it is 
> a Three of a Kind,
> and has a Score of 25.
> 
> If a Poker Hand contains two Cards of one Rank and two cards 
> of another Rank,
> it is Two Pair, and has a Score of 15.
> 
> If a Poker Hand contains two Cards of the same Rank, it is a 
> Pair, and has a
> Score of 5.
> 
> If a Poker Hand contains none of the above, its Score is 0.
> \end{proposal}
> 
> --
> Rob Speer
>