| Craig Daniel on Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:37:16 -0700 (MST) |
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| Re: [s-b] [Oracle] CFI 106 |
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 4:28 PM, James Baxter <jebaxter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> From: bnomic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:10:36 -0600 >> To: spoon-business@xxxxxxxxx >> Subject: Re: [s-b] [s-d] Umm >> >> >> I CFI on "A player who forfeits ceases to be a player of B Nomic" > > > This is CFI 106. I assign CFI 106 to Judge teucer. I judge this CFI TRUE. Arguments: Longstanding nomic custom holds that the answer probably ought to be true. On the other hand, coppro continues to meet the definition of a player spelled out in the rules, which very clearly means e is a player. I see two possible ways to deal with this. The first is to respect the ordinary-language meaning of forfeit, which since the ruleset is written in everyday (if slightly legalistic) English except where terms are given jargon meanings would seem to make sense. Since this would simply mean that coppro loses the game (of B Nomic, as distinct from the one I just lost) but does not cease to be a player, it would imply an answer of FALSE. The other approach is to suppose that forfeiting is, contrary to coppro's assertions, a means of revoking one's consent to be a player, in which case the answer is TRUE, but coppro has made it clear that e still consents to being a player. This would appear to create a challenge to this interpretation, but I contend that it does not. Because there is no state of having lost B Nomic, one cannot gain that state voluntarily; the meaning based on the everyday usage in the specialist context that is the history of Nomic is thus more appropriate here. On the other hand, in posting arguments about this CFI to the PF, coppro explicitly stated that e meets all the requirements for being a player, including consenting to said designation. This consent was offered more recently than eir forfeiture; ergo, having ceased to be a player by explicitly if obliquely withdrawing eir consent, coppro became a player again this afternoon. - teucer _______________________________________________ spoon-business mailing list spoon-business@xxxxxxxxx http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/spoon-business