Craig Daniel on Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:37:16 -0700 (MST)

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Re: [s-b] [Oracle] CFI 106

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 4:28 PM, James Baxter <jebaxter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> From: bnomic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:10:36 -0600
>> To: spoon-business@xxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [s-b] [s-d]  Umm
>> I CFI on "A player who forfeits ceases to be a player of B Nomic"
> This is CFI 106. I assign CFI 106 to Judge teucer.

I judge this CFI TRUE.

Arguments: Longstanding nomic custom holds that the answer probably
ought to be true. On the other hand, coppro continues to meet the
definition of a player spelled out in the rules, which very clearly
means e is a player.

I see two possible ways to deal with this. The first is to respect the
ordinary-language meaning of forfeit, which since the ruleset is
written in everyday (if slightly legalistic) English except where
terms are given jargon meanings would seem to make sense. Since this
would simply mean that coppro loses the game (of B Nomic, as distinct
from the one I just lost) but does not cease to be a player, it would
imply an answer of FALSE. The other approach is to suppose that
forfeiting is, contrary to coppro's assertions, a means of revoking
one's consent to be a player, in which case the answer is TRUE, but
coppro has made it clear that e still consents to being a player. This
would appear to create a challenge to this interpretation, but I
contend that it does not.

Because there is no state of having lost B Nomic, one cannot gain that
state voluntarily; the meaning based on the everyday usage in the
specialist context that is the history of Nomic is thus more
appropriate here. On the other hand, in posting arguments about this
CFI to the PF, coppro explicitly stated that e meets all the
requirements for being a player, including consenting to said
designation. This consent was offered more recently than eir
forfeiture; ergo, having ceased to be a player by explicitly if
obliquely withdrawing eir consent, coppro became a player again this

 - teucer
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