Jamie Dallaire on Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:50:05 -0700 (MST)


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Re: [s-b] Consultation 200 on Same Titles


And I now submit the answer and reasoning below ttpf!

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Jamie Dallaire <bad.leprechaun@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 11:09 AM, M P Darke <darkemalcolm@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Excuse me...
>> >
>> > "
>> > There cannot be two game objects with the same title. A mistake?
>> > "
>> >
>> > Really? What about the Trophy "A gleaming steel Rapier" (I believe, I've
>> > got parental controls on my laptop, and b.nomic.net is currently
>> blocked)
>> > and the Weapon Rapier?
>> >
>> > I submit a consultation:
>> > Can there be two game objects with the same title?
>> > Unbeliever: ehird
>> > Barred: Marr965 (This is me, by the way, and I bar myself from answering
>> it
>> > on the grounds that I will be biased.)
>
>
> I Answer Consultation 200 YES.
>
> Reasoning:
> {
> Titles are an Attribute of Rules (5E8) and Proposals (5E33). There exists
> no limitation, in any Rule, on the similarity of Titles.
>
> That is it for the literal reading.
>
> It can, however, be argued that it has been game custom to treat the Title
> of a Rule or Proposal as its Name. Both "title" and "name" are currently
> ill-defined, but may be de facto equivalent. If we treat them as such, then
> Rule 5E42 ("No Game Object may come to have the same name as another Game
> Object.") disallows the creation of a Rule or Proposal with the same Title
> as another.
>
> That said, it is the act of creating (or renaming) the Rule or Proposal
> that is impossible, not the existence of two identically-named Game Objects
> (be they Rules, Proposals, or other). Rule 5E42's prohibition only came
> about with the start of B Nomic's 5th Era, so it is entirely possible for
> Game Objects created prior to the 5th Era (or simultaneously with it) to
> have the same name. As I have previously noted, I believe that this is in
> fact the case for various Switches.
> }
>
> Billy Pilgrim
>
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