Re: [s-d] Re: [s-b] [auto] PlayerPersonman submits p1912/0

[Jake Eakle <jseakle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> k fine, so it sucks. i thought _maybe_, in the spirit of t you all would
> appreciate the creativity despite the lack of exactitude. But no, I see that
> your precious rules are more important than my immense artistic ability..
>  : ) anyway, it seems to be going nowhere, ao i hereby rescind prop
> #whatever, More Poetry. I had fun writing it, at least.
> 
> 
> --Personman
> 
> On 10/3/04 5:58 PM, "Jeremy Cook" <athena@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 03, 2004 at 05:36:12PM -0700, Jake Eakle wrote:
>>> 
>>>> You won't actually get any bonus points for your proposal as it stands.
>>>> The restrictions laid out by Limerick form and Void form apply to the
>>>> entire prop; having a rule within the prop that conforms doesn't
>>>> suffice. In your prop, the line 'Add section A.6 to rule 437:' contains
>>>> an 'e' and doesn't fit in any limerick, so you don't meet the
>>>> requirements for either form.
>>>> 
>>>> As for the Form Creation Bonus, I wonder if we should do away with it
>>>> entirely. It's not too hard to propose a rule in a poetic form, but it
>>>> is hard to do it well (consider how ugly the Song Form and Void Form
>>>> sections are). Because of this, most Poetic props do not create rules
>>>> or make large changes to them,  and I don't think we should be
>>>> encouraging the creation of props that do.
>> 
>> I like the bonus.
>> I'd say keep it, but we should actively vote against bad poetry.
>> "Vote against bad poetry" would make a good bumper sticker, actually.
>> 
>>> 
>>> If this is true, did the haiku and song props not get their authors any
>>> points? Neither one contains the Add a section text within the actual poetry
>>> bit... Somehow, i kinda think the clauses in each of the forms that exclude
>>> the name and comments also exclude such introductory text. I'm not sure of
>>> the necessity of the Add a rule, Add a section, Modify rule X, etc. text
>>> under the current rules, but if it is necessary then no one could ever get
>>> any points for a poem form without devoting most of it to this text, and if
>>> it's not it would be trivial for me to simply remove it, and more efficient
>>> to ignore it for poetry purposes...
>> 
>> Well, the SOL covers those cases, but the rule is clear: comments and
>> the title don't have to be excluded, but "Add a section" is part of the
>> actual text of the prop. It's not just a throwaway.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> It took me awhile to figure out where this '200 points' figure was
>>>> coming from :) I guess it never occurred to me to read it that way.
>>>> 
>>>> The intent here was to give not "10 score" points, but 10 "score
>>>> points"; the word 'score' indicates that these are score points, as
>>>> opposed to points of bandwidth, Respect points, points of Entropy, or
>>>> any of the dozens of things that could have been called 'points'
>>>> throughout this game's history.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Perhaps the quotes should be added for clarity?
>> 
>> I never thought of that either, but if you prop it, I'd prefer a hyphen.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Even with your explanation, I still don't understand the meaning of
>>>> 'six among six'.
>>> 
>>> Six among six = six distributed among six people = six divided by six:
>>> 
>>> 30 + (6 / 6) = 31 syllables.
>> 
>> Granted that saying "31" in three dis-Eased anapests that rhyme with
>> "sticks" is not easy to do, no one would have any idea what that meant
>> on first reading it. Also, you don't say "syllables", so it could be
>> words, lines, paragraphs, or letters just as well. You also don't say
>> "points".
>> 
>> Zarpint, who will soon emerge from under eir rock.
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