Glotmorf on Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:03:51 -0500 (CDT)


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Re: [Spoon-business] Fine, I'll bite...


On 29 Apr 2004 at 17:40, Craig wrote:

> I, being a player other than Glotmorf, submit the following CFI
> 
> Statement: As of Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:12:45, Central Daylight Time, the
> Clock read nweek 62, nday 8.
> 
> Defendant: Glotmorf
> 
> The Ruleset does not clearly define what should and should not be
> contained within a Recognizer, and do not in fact really define what
> is required for the Admin to "Recognize" anything, as the word is
> never clearly defined. It is therefore improbable that a query of
> Glotmorf's counts as something the Admin needs to Recognize in any
> official capacity.
> 
> The word 'Recognize' only appears in a few rules:
> * Rule 0 (which explicitly refers only to the Emergency Management
>   procedure)
> * Rule 16 (stating that actions taken in Private Fora may, but are not
>   required to, be recognized)
> * Rule 260 (stating that the Admin may but is not required to
> recognize
>   Kicks in the Ass)
> * Rule 625.C.2 (Ministry of Gremlins)
> * Rule 1272 (only in a comment)
> * Rule 1583.D.1 (used in an informal context, refering to the "Duty
> Duty") * Rule 1586 (stating that actions not recognized during a
> Checking Period
>   cause the Clock to stop)

As Defendant in this CFI, I submit the following argument:

"Game precedent" has been used in various instances in the 
past, including CFIs/CFJs, to indicate the meaning of a given 
thing, with actual in-game occurrences being used as examples.  
In the case of what Administrator Recognition actually is, 
there is rather a lot of game precedent, reaching back, as far 
as I can recall, to nweek 3 -- at least two real-life years 
ago.  In all that time, recognitions of actions, as assembled 
in the "Daily/Checkpointly Recognizer," have consisted of the 
following:

- citing the specific action taken by the player
- stating the consequences of said actions from a game 
perspective

Since this definition of recognition, based on example, has 
remained virtually unchanged throughout the game, I submit 
that it is in fact the official definition.  Since, according 
to the Administrator's argument, voiced by Teucer in this CFI, 
there is nothing in the ruleset that explicitly states what 
recognition is, that means there's nothing in the ruleset that 
conflicts with the game-precedent-based definition.

Given that a definition of recognition of an action exists, 
the next question is whether my disagreement with the vote 
count constituted a recognition-worthy action.  I say it does, 
based on two things:

- Rule 129 states that the objection of a player to a 
statement by the Administrator is a gamestate-altering event, 
inasmuch as it prevents a statement by the Administrator as 
being accepted as immutable.

- The Administrator apparently felt the need to recognize the 
action, since he first confirmed it had occurred, and then 
stated the consequences of it (his veto of my proposal).

Since the rules say my action had game-related consequences, 
and since the Administrator followed the game-precedent-based 
formula for recognizing it, my action must have been worthy of 
recognition.

Since my recognition-worthy action happened the day after the 
vote results were posted, it happened before nday 3.  
Therefore the clock must have stopped at the first checkpoint 
until the recognizer, mislabelled "nday 7," was issued.

Since the action I took within a nday of the issue of this 
mislabelled nday 3 recognizer -- removing the comments from 
Proposal 1841 -- has still not been recognized, according to 
the list of proposals on the B Nomic website, the clock must 
have stopped at the nday 7 checkpoint.

Therefore, it is still nday 7 of nweek 62 now, and could not 
possibly have been nday 8 of nweek 62 before.

						Glotmorf

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