Gavin Doig on 24 May 2002 12:25:22 -0000


[Date Prev] [Date Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Date Index] [Thread Index]

spoon-business: CFJ


<CFJ>
<statement>There is a rule numbered 212 in the current ruleset.</statement>
<defendant>Baron von Skippy</defendant>
<analysis>
Proosal 678 repealed rule 212. Proosal 678 was vetoed by the admin.

Rule 32 says that a proosal which is vetoed by the admin is "deemed to have failed". However, the Admin did not veto p678 until he released the voting results. P678 is considered to have passed "after the votes on all proposals voted on during that voting period have been counted", at which point its changes are applied. It's a little ambiguous as to whether that is when they are platonically counted by the rules, or mundanely counted by the Admin, but either way his veto came afterwards.

Rule 32 does take precedence over rule 204, so it is possible for rule 32 to have retroactive effect. However, nowhere does rule 32 state that it does so. Reversing the changes p678 made to r155 would be a change to the rules, and thus by r11 can only be done if the rules provide for doing so, which r32 does not do.

Therefore, although proosal 678 is deemed to have failed, the changes it made to the rules (and, probably, gamestate, although that's not needed for this CFJ to be FALSE, or important as it only created a rule) have nonetheless taken place, and this CFJ is FALSE.

[[Yes, this won't please Dave, and it might well be better if this were true. "Nonetheless, it still moves."]]
</analysis>
</CFJ>

The Reality Police,
The Style Police,
Hero of the Revolution.
-- 
_______________________________________________
Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com
http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup