spoon-business: Re: spoon-discuss: Back by popular demand

[Dan <wald7330@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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> I have a few questions/suggestions:
> 
> Section 4 creates a "rune". That would be the first rune in this game. I'm 
> not sure that I'd be bound to follow a rune.

Oops.  Thanks for catching that.  I've fixed it in the latest version,
posted below.

> 
> Why do Parties need serial numbers?

Why does anything need serial numbers?  We don't actually have to number
our rules either, we could keep track of them only by title or by 'the
rule Joel proposed nweek 4, day 5'. I don't want them to get lost.  If the
consensus is that it's overkill then I'll take it out.

> I'd like there to be a requirement that Party records be kept in such a way 
> that 1) tracks changes to Party rules, and 2) makes all Party records 
> public if a Party ceases to exist.
 
I wanted to make Parties as self-contained as possible.  I can see that #2
is a good idea, but I can't see how to track and publish changes to party
rules while still keeping them secret.  However, a good set of party rules
should appoint someone as the Party Admin, to track the party rules.

> Also, I have reservations about the idea of only a judge being appraised of 
> Party rules when they are relevant to an RFJ, since such rules could 
> conceivably impact a plaintiff's ability to make eir case.

But secret party rules cannot be given away to more players than
nescessary.  Presumably the plaintiff would be someone affected by the
party rules; therefore they must have access to the rules.  They can refer
to rules in their request, but they cannot quote rules.

I caution players not to join any party until you have been shown its
ruleset, not to join a party that does not let you leave if things go
sour, and not to join a party that does not include a reasonable method of
tracking changes to its rules.

Let the mayhem begin!
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I rescind my latest attempt to create a new proposal and instead submit
another new proposal, entitled "Parties: back by popular demand", with
text as follows:


1. Enact a new rule entitled "Parties", text as follows:

A Party is a type of object consisting of a name, a serial number, a set
of rules, and a set of member agents. Any agent may create a party at any
time by announcing eir intent to the Administrator who shall recognize eir
action and assign a serial number, the party creator must also determine
an initial set of rules and name for the new party. A newly created party
has no members, and a party which is found to have no members continuously
for a period of one nweek ceases to exist.

2. Enact a new rule entitled "Party Membership", text as follows:

The requirements for membership of a party shall be defined by the
rules of that party. No agent may become a member of a party without eir
consent.

The members of a Party must abide by the rules of that Party, with the
proviso that no agent may be required to abide by a set of rules of which
e has been uninformed. The rules of this game take precedence over the
rules of all Parties, but they do not exempt the members of a party from a
punishment for failing to comply with the rules of that party.

3. Enact a new rule entitled "Party Privacy", with text as follows:

The rules and membership list shall be maintained by the members of that
party. They must be available to all members of that party, but are not
required to be available to non-members; all members must be apprised of
any change in the rules or party membership. If the otherwise privately
kept rules or membership of a party is the subjct of a CFJ, and the judge
of that CFJ is not a member of that party, then whomever is responsible
for tracking the state of the party rules and any elements defined in the
party rules shall make them available available to judge upon the judge's
selection, but the Judge shall not further distribute them.

4. Enact a new rule entitled "Party Security", with text as follows:

In no case may an agent be bound by a set of rules of which e is
uninformed.

In no case may an agent become a member of a party without eir express
written consent, although said consent does not nescessarily have to be
posted to the Public forum. Party rules may not take precedence over the
rules of this game, although this does not nescessarily exempt a player
from penalties for failing to abide by the rules of a party of which e is
a member. Party rules may not redefine terms used in the rules of this
game.

5. Enact a new rule entitled "Party Destruction", with text as follows:

If a Party ceases to exist the last known state of its rules, membership,
and any variables or other objects defined shall be made publicly
available.
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Poulenc