Re: [eia] Prussian Economic Phase, 3/07

["Bill Jaffe" <billj@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'm for this not causing bankruptcy, or civil disorder.

Bill Jaffe
Wargaming since Tactics (1958), and playing 18xx since 1829
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From: eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of J.J.
Young
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 1:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [eia] Prussian Economic Phase, 3/07

Do others agree that having negative manpower would trigger bankruptcy ?  Or

is it just the same as having zero manpower with no additional penalty ?  Or

do you simply lose as much as you are able, and then get no political 
benefit from the manipulation ?

On a separate but related rules question...

Yes, I know that if we weren't using option 11.9.1.2, a country would 
otherwise go into Civil Disorder if it could "collect" no home nation 
manpower.  But Economic Manipulation seems to be a separate step from the 
Money/Manpower Collection step.  Also, the rules for Civil Disorder seem to 
take no other possible cause into account except occupation by an enemy.  So

can Civil Disorder (or, with the option we are using, mandatory 
Unconditional Surrender) be triggered by your own Economic Manipulation ?

-JJY

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 12:51 AM
Subject: [eia] Prussian Economic Phase, 3/07


>4 Victory points.
>
> Prussia's base $33 and 17 mp is reduced to $17/9 mp for Economic Loss.
>
> American trade raises this to $23/9 mp.
>
> Economic Manipulation (+2 PP/-$21/-10 mp) brings Prussia's total income to
> $2/-1 mp.
> (I read it that unless Prussia has saved manpower which it can fill in for
> this decificit, the country goes bankrupt and loses -3 PPs.)
>
> Maintenance:
> Saxony:  Income $12/6 mp, 1 corps = $1 maintenance.
>
> Prussia:  6 corps = $6 maintenance.
> (So unless Prussia has at least $4 saved up from previous turns, or can 
> get
> loan money, this is another point where the country may go bankrupt, if 
> they
> didn't already over manpower.)
>
> PSD Adjustment:  +2, to either the highest box in the Instability Zone, or
> if Prussia went bankrupt, to the highest "4" box.
>
> Does Prussia go bankrupt, Mark ?
>
> -JJY
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [eia] avoiding economic instability for Prussia
>
>
>> oh dear
>>
>> So I make it my economic phase is:
>>
>> Base $33 and 17mp
>> American Trade: $6
>>
>> Where does my economic manipulation come into this?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Mark
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