Re: [eia] Round 3, Mantua retreat question...

["James Helle" <jhelle@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

The rules for foraging are in 7.4.1.  Rule 7.4.1.2.2 states" For each MP the
corps did not use , one is subtracted from the [forage] die.  EXCEPTION: The
die is not modified due to unused MPs if the corps is besieging or plans to
besiege forces *in the area*.

At the time that corps were moved and forage rolls were made, the currently
retreating force was not "besieging or planning to besiege" in that area
and, at the time, had no plans to even enter the area.  Therefore, the
retreating corps should not affect the ongoing siege.

-----Original Message-----
From: eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
Joel Uckelman
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 5:14 PM
To: public list for an Empires in Arms game
Subject: Re: [eia] Round 3, Mantua retreat question...


Thus spake "James Helle":
> I'm not so sure I agree with Joel about this.
>
> If a corps that had used unused MP to forage retreats into an active siege
> that shouldn't cause the siege to end.  The foraging had already taken
place
> before the retreat!  And in a totally different land area!  I disagree
that
> this should affect another corps ability to besiege.
>
> This is backed up by the wording in 7.5.4: "A phasing force that just
> attacked and won a field or trivial combat in an area may then besiege an
> enemy city in that area if all corps *in the phasing force* used depot
> supply and / or did not use unused MP to modify a foraging roll".
>
> The key here, IMO, is that a retreating force is not a phasing force.  A
> phasing force is one using MPs to change it's location during it's land
> phase order.  A retreat is an entirely different form of movement.

I read 7.5.4 as applying to victorious attackers only. The rule that
I think is applicable here is one which is in the section on foraging,
7.2.something.

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J.
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