Re: [eia] impasse

["J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I've never claimed anything more than a maximum of luck and a minimum of
mistakes in the present game.  Certainly the dice leaned my way in really
critical situations.

In the present and past games I've tried to play along the lines of
long-term survival and prosperity that Mike talks about, but it's easy for
me to say that, since it's harder for a true catastrophe to befall Britain
than most other countries.  I'm willing to tip my hand to the extent of
saying that I've played the 1805-1807 years as GB enough times (and gotten
as lucky as I could hope to again), and I'm ready to move on to a different
country if we start over.

By and large, I'm happy to start a new game, but I worry a bit about the
idea that one player being way ahead is sufficient cause to end a campaign.
In the real Napoleonic wars, France dominated in the early years, and the
supposedly crushed opponents rose from the ashes to strike Nappy down in the
end.  I would hate to think that we would have stopped the "game" at the
Treaty of Tilsit, and never played out the German resurgeance, Russian
invasion, or Penninsular war.  Maybe the fact that GB, unlike France, is all
but impossible to access in the face of a dominant navy makes the present
game situation different.

But anyway, the clear consensus seems to be for starting fresh, and I say
let's get going as quickly as possible !  I'll try to call Fred today and
see what he says, and then we'll know how many players we're working with.

-JJY

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Gorman" <mpgorman@xxxxxxxx>
To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: [eia] impasse


> At 10:17 PM 7/20/2005, you wrote:
> >I am not opposed to starting over.  However, if we do this will be the
third
> >time we've done so since I've started playing.  I think we should discuss
> >(and decide on) a mechanism that will prevent us starting over any more
> >after this.  I have gotten the impression that some players are not fond
of
> >the UMP rules, but these may have to be our fall back position in the
> >future.
> >
> >Also, JJ and I discussed the bidding system a week or two ago and it
seems
> >both of us are wondering if we have been bidding too high to make victory
> >reasonably attainable.  Kyle, would the EIH people have some input on
> >"sensible" bids?
> >
> >BTW, I'm not necessarily making a case for starting over.  I'm just
raising
> >some issues I think we should address if we decide to.
>
> On the bidding front I found it fascinating to see the lessons we each
took
> from the last game.  One of my big lessons as Russia was don't start the
> game at war with Turkey as you need about twice Russia's starting army to
> confidently invade Turkey while maintaining defenses along your other
> fronts.  What I found ironic was that Joel, who had been Turkey, took away
> the exact opposite lesson and immediately played Russia and started at war
> with Turkey.
>
> So, what people think is reasonable and what they consider a high bid or a
> low bid is really going to vary.  From this game, you might conclude that
> JJ seriously underbid Britain as he's on pace to coast to a victory
several
> years early and has eliminated all serious naval threats so Britain is
> pretty much unassailable.  Or you might conclude it was a fluke and he got
> lucky.  Which is right, well, we won't know that until we play another
game
> and see how it goes.  But when people are setting up their bids for
> Britain  next game, we're all going to have to decide if we think that was
> a fair showing of what a well played Britain can do or was that a fair
> showing of what a lucky British player can do.
>
> And, because I can't resist, you have to decide if you feel lucky.
>
> Mike
>
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