Re: [eia] Spanish Economic Phase, March 06

[Sterling Wight <sterling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Nov 2, 2004, at 2:05 PM, J.J. Young wrote:

> > Victory Points: 4
>
> I showed Spain in the highest "3" box at the beginning of the economic
> phase.  That's where Spain started March, and I don't believe anything
> happened during the month to gain or lose any PPs.
>
> > Income/Manpower:
> > 32/ 16 (printed value)
> > + 1/1 (Sardinia)
>
> Sardinia became neutral in February, when the peace treaty dropped 
> Spain
> into the Instability Zone for the February Minor Country Control phase
> (4.6.1 & 10.5.2).

okay

> > + 6 (American trade)
> > --------------
> > 39/17
>
> Spain also receives $8 from domestic trade with Great Britain, unless 
> the
> intention was to refuse this trade.

Unfortunately, treaty obligations from before I began play require me 
to refuse trade (and without reimbursement, to boot). So I will be 
pretty close to flat broke

final income
38/16


> > maintenance $11 (5 corps, 1 fleet, 5 depot)
> >
> > Economic manipulation:
> > received +1 for March, paying for +1 (5 manpower)
>
> Just to make sure we're on the same page; you receive the benefit and 
> pay
> the cost for economic manipulation at the same time, three months 
> after you
> set it.  So Spain is gaining +1 PP and paying the -5 mp for it now in 
> March,
> based on the setting from December.  Since Spain is keeping the same
> setting, it will gain +1 PP in June and pay the -5 mp for it then.

I didn't realize that you paid in the month you received the 
manipulation, not in the month you made it. Isn't that a problem near 
the end of the game? Anyhow, that means I'm down $11 this month, and 
lose the 5 manpower in June (see other net discussion for why $11 and 
not 5 mp)

> > political status adjustment is +3 (+1 manipulation, +2 drift)
> >
> >
> > I can't find the rule for Economic Loss but it may apply (depends on 
> > if
> > done before track adjustment, and anyhow, I don't know what it is
>
> According to 10.5.2, the economic loss roll is made during the Money 
> and
> Manpower collection step, which is before adjustments for economic
> manipulation and drift.
>
> So Spain must make a roll and get over "1", or else is loses half of 
> the
> money and mapower it would normally collect (and I guess the -5 mp for
> economic manipulation would come from the half you did collect).  Ouch.
>
> Well, I'm sorry most of this input is bad news.  I hope it's helpful.
>
> -JJY

okay, one die roll coming up.

And I do appreciate the careful check. I knew there was no hope of my 
doing this phase correctly, far to complex for a first time through, 
especially since my time to pay attention is limited.

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