Re: [eia] a question about trade

["J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

But Jim, which do you think is the cause for Spain's trade being stopped in
this case ?  I think that's what we are trying to decide.  Is it stopped
because of Madrid's occupation (and GB doesn't need to roll), or by
condition B.6. (and GB does need to roll) ?

-JJY

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Helle" <jhelle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 7:38 PM
Subject: RE: [eia] a question about trade


> I guess I'll weigh in on this discussion now.  I think it is a mistake to
> take the different rules and try to apply them all to each other.  I
believe
> they each reference a different situation.  For example:
>     8.2.1.2.1.5 says a major power can conduct no trade if its capitol is
> occupied.  This goes for *any* occupier and I don't think it matters that
> the occupier is G.B.  I don't think this in itself causes G.B. to roll for
> war with America.
>     8.2.1.2.2.2.2-8.2.1.2.2.2.2.2 says that if G.B. is at war with a major
> power that G.B. may intercept that powers' American trade and gains the
> value of that trade.  This *will* cause G.B. to roll for a war with
America.
>     12.9 says that if peace condition B.6 is imposed on a major power and
> halts that major powers' American trade then this *will* cause G.B to roll
> for war with America.
>
>     In summary; the occupation of Madrid will not, in my opinion, cause a
> war with America.  However, if either of the last two scenarios exist,
then
> they will result in a roll for war with America.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> J.J. Young
> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 8:34 AM
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> Subject: [eia] a question about trade
>
>
> 8.2.1.2.1.5 states that a major power with its national capital occupied
may
> not conduct any form of trade.  In my opinion, this means that Great
Britain
> need not make a "War of 1812" roll for denying American trade to Spain,
> since no trade can be attempted for me to deny in the first place.
>
> Rule 12.9 states that "the British must make the die roll during any Money
> and Manpower Collection Step in which any major powers are denied American
> trade by Britain and/or by the B.6. peace condition.  Since neither of
these
> causes is the reason why Spain cannot carry on American trade, in my
opinion
> Britain need not make the roll.
>
> What do the rest of you think ?
>
> -JJY
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