Re: [eia] access

["J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'll just say one thing, which is not meant to be provocative or to continue
any argument, it's just meant to maybe explain people's perspective a little
more clearly.  At the time that Kyle sent out his access changes, it was not
presented in the form of a correction to his political orders, but as a new,
separate action.  Maybe Kyle knew that he was taking this step out of turn,
but if so, there was nothing in his email to indicate it.  That is, there
was nothing about the email that indicated that it was a correction to his
political orders, and no permission was asked of others that might be
affected (me) if the correction was OK.  This irked me a bit and I said so,
but I didn't think it was important enough to rock the boat.  So I can
understand others being a bit miffed, but I think it's all a
misunderstanding and we should just move on.

Happy Thanksgiving, honored enemies, allies, and that Russian guy  :-)
-JJY

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle H" <menexenus@xxxxxxx>
To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [eia] access


>     Can you explain to me how Prussian interests are affected by adding an
> access agreement to the French Political Phase?  I find it difficult to
see
> what objections you might have, especially considering that you did not
take
> your reinforcement phase until *after* the announcement was made.
>     JJ makes the point that by releasing the access agreement late, some
> countries who had taken their reinforcement phases might have made
different
> choices if they had known about the access.  But Austria and Turkey both
> published their reinforcement phases *before* the Political Phase escrow
was
> even made public.  So apparently, their reinforcement orders weren't going
> to change regardless of what happened during the Political Phase.  The
only
> countries who released reinforcement orders between the release of the
> Political Phase escrow and my access announcement were GB, Spain, and
> Russia.  Presumably, Spain and Russia are not adversely affected, and
since
> JJ has already said that he is willing to let it slide, I don't see how
> anybody else could possibly have a legitimate beef.
>     Here's how I see the situation:  I forgot to include a statement that
my
> new ally should have access to French territory.  When I spotted the
mistake
> (the day after the escrow was released), I corrected it.  The only person
> who might have been adversely affected by the change (JJ) said he didn't
> mind.  So what's the problem, Jim?  Explain it to me.  Are you trying to
say
> it's not OK to correct mistakes?  Should I put Bernadotte back on the
board,
> too?
>
> kdh
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Helle" <jhelle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 9:35 PM
> Subject: RE: [eia] access
>
>
> > I will.  It was agreed that granting access to another major power was a
> > political act and would be done in the political phase.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> > J.J. Young
> > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 7:55 PM
> > To: public list for an Empires in Arms game
> > Subject: Re: [eia] access
> >
> >
> > >     Until further notice, Spain and Russia have unfettered voluntary
> > access to all French territories.
> >
> > I'm not going to be a hard-case about it and say you can't do this, but
> > didn't we decide that access changes would only be made during the
> political
> > orders ?
> >
> > -JJY
> >
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